>To my dearest Beav(y).
>> >Yes I think they are push fit. Not everything that Vario sell is good.
>> >at the copters?
>> I've got one and I'm thinking of getting ANOTHER.
>Now I know you are mad.
Vario's are fine flying machines. Granted they rotate arse about face,
but they're better than a lot of the cack out there, and now that they
do a "proper" rotating heli. I'm thinking seriously.
>> > I was going to give them a try but I think I will have to
>> >the hacksaw out and go and remove a bit of more steel from that nice
>> >new railing outside of the Civic Offices.
>> STOP THIEF!!!!!!!
>I paid for it? I pay my rates, council tax etc so, I figure they owe me a
>bit of 1/4
Tell that to the judge. POLICE!!!!! Stop that man<?>
>> Put an ali baffle in there. If you stick the ali baffle on with a dollop
>> of silicon sealeant, that's 2 things keeping the heat off the fuze.
>Don't forget that the muffler is touching the side of the fuze. I have a
>heatshield glued to the side and it gets warm. Well hot actualy. One
>thing I did think of was pushing the tube that sits over the O rings
>into the muffler a bit. That would gain me about 1/4 - 3/8 of an inch
If you're bothered about 3/8" you must have REAL problems:-) I can
handle not pushing it in all the way in without problems (or complaints)
Maybe the *** "O" rings are meant for mounting mufflers, although
never having mounted one I can't be sure:-)
>That should be enough? Two ways I could do this:
>Warm the aly joint up and slide it in a bit and re-weld or trim off one
>of enough of the tube leaving 1 O ring to hold the pipe on. I favour the
>first method but if I fail I am going to***up a Hatori muffler and at
>80 od quid a shot I do not want to *** it up. And I feel that its going
>to go realy wrong.
If you're not 100% with the welding, that's a distinct possibility, but
have faith in your abilities and get on with it. You may get it right
>> Can't you dremel out the area of the bulkhead where the pipe would pass
>> through, without removing the outer edge? That way you'd still have the
>> bulkhead doing it's job, but still have space for a pipe.
>I could do that but I would not be able to get to the rear mount on the
>I like to use exhaust mounting wire. Wish I had thought of making coat
>out of exhuast mounting wire <G>.
I made my last "rear pipe" mount out of carbon fibre sheet to extend the
"frame" and then used a Lord mount to attach the pipe to the extension.
This allows for the pipe to stay connected to the mechs and with a
little "jiggery-pokery" I can get the mechanics out of the 222 shell as
a whole working unit (Apart from retracts and tail rotor servo). The
pipe clears the body by a good 1/2 inch and I've not even needed to put
in a heat shield.
My manifold is "biased" towards the frames so the pipe hugs the side of
the heli and doesn't stick out too much, in fact it "just" clears the
cooling fan but so far no cooling fan or motor meltdown so it must clear
it by enough. I'm no lover of coat hangers anyway, they fatigue too
easily and end up as just more s***metal in the shell.
>> The Airwolf I just finished has the pipe (Burley) fastened directly to
>> the side frames with the outlet directed out of the floor and the
>> manifold/header is a bog standard Burley item with a HARD connection to
>> the pipe.
>Thats what I wanted to ask last time. How do you attach your pipes? and
>is you HARD connection?
Well the pipe is a "U" shape lying on it's side with the bottom of the
"U" towards the front of the heli (pretty standard)
The pipe's an interference fit inside the manifold and a jubilee clip
gets screwed (lucky clip I say) up tight. The pipe and the mainfold are
now "as one" but as a belt and braces insurance, I have the frame
extension and Lord mount at the back end, although I think it's more a
"mind" thing than a necessity.
>> >Thats what I am hoping to do. I think its out with the Dremal and whip
>> >bulkhead out.
>> Only PART of it.
>Yea maybe. Its all or nothing with me :->
With that 3/8" problem you seem to have, I'm sure it is :-)
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