When a day goes wrong!!!!

When a day goes wrong!!!!

Post by Robert Mulliga » Sun, 30 May 1999 04:00:00



Well, I've only been flying for a couple of weeks now and it's a gorgeous
day to practice more hovering.

I took my Kalt 30 Baron out for a spin at the park around 8, the first tank
fuel and things were fine.  Refueled and started to hover... the bird went
into an uncontrolled spin about 3 feet off the ground... oh no, I lost the
gyro... says I while scrambling to land this whirling top.
I got it down when it passed over some taller grass.... the tail fin hit the
ground first, and took a small notch out of it... the tall grass took some
small notches out at the very tips of the tail rortors, but it came down in
one piece and sat there idling like a champ....

Hmmmm..... the gyro is still spinning....  lets try some rudder... oh, the
sheathing on the rudder cable has inched forward and is binding... ok, fixed

playing like a may pole....  Maybe the Gyro is gone.... disconect it and run
the rudder without it... still the mad pirouter.... Take it home and
disassemble the tail... yep, somthing let lose... some of the teeth are
striped... ok, replace some parts... get ready to go back out around 1 pm,
and a friend drops by with his LMH110 that he has just finished putting
together (his and it's maiden flight) ... so we go with both birds... his
won't start, I have never played with the norvell engines so WHAT IS THE
SECRET TO STARTING THE DARN THING????  Mine gets in the air and dies about 5
feet in the air...
the***on the throttle side of my Thunder Tigre has backed out and the

and locktite the***back in (yes I used blue)... ok, bird last chance of
the day.... the darn thing goes into a tail spin again... the sheathing has
bound.... again....  THATS IT!!  This thing is going on the bench tonight
for a full checkup.

so, how was your day?

--
Robert Mulligan

 
 
 

When a day goes wrong!!!!

Post by richard si » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00


Makes you want to take up Golf  hahaha

Richard Sims
salisbury NC 28144

1-704-633-5098

 
 
 

When a day goes wrong!!!!

Post by VDell » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00


Make sure that your starter will spin fast enough. I tried for an hour the
first time to start mine. switched starters, and fired right up.
                Vince D
Quote:
>and a friend drops by with his LMH110 that he has just finished putting
>together (his and it's maiden flight) ... so we go with both birds... his
>won't start, I have never played with the norvell engines so WHAT IS THE
>SECRET TO STARTING THE DARN THING????

 
 
 

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Post by Keith » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00


I can't give any advice on the Kalt, but do have an LMH.  Make sure he runs
%25 fuel w/ %18 castor (like the Norvel fuel, if he doesn't mind the cost.)
Start with at least 3 spacers, and have plenty of extra glow plugs.  I found
the Norvel starts easiest at almost full throttle, so you have to hold the
little beast by the skids, and watch out for the blades when it does start.

I also bought a Sullivan 1/2A spin starter specifically for this machine.
Works great!!

Good luck

KB..............

 
 
 

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Post by Rexv » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00




Quote:
>the***on the throttle side of my Thunder Tigre has backed out and the

>and locktite the***back in (yes I used blue)... ok, bird last chance of
>the day.... the darn thing goes into a tail spin again... the sheathing has
>bound.... again....  THATS IT!!  This thing is going on the bench tonight
>for a full checkup.

Hmm..what sort of heli? Please tell me it wasn't a Raptor! (TT
engine). The sleeves on the rear to hold the shaft for the
counterrotor are not that great an idea to be sure!
 
 
 

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Post by John Lyo » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00


Robert,
I was almost decapitated getting used to my new Heading Hold gyro.
Hmmmm..HEADing HOLD...
But a good day.
John
Quote:

> Well, I've only been flying for a couple of weeks now and it's a gorgeous
> day to practice more hovering.

> I took my Kalt 30 Baron out for a spin at the park around 8, the first tank
> fuel and things were fine.  Refueled and started to hover... the bird went
> into an uncontrolled spin about 3 feet off the ground... oh no, I lost the
> gyro... says I while scrambling to land this whirling top.
> I got it down when it passed over some taller grass.... the tail fin hit the
> ground first, and took a small notch out of it... the tall grass took some
> small notches out at the very tips of the tail rortors, but it came down in
> one piece and sat there idling like a champ....

> Hmmmm..... the gyro is still spinning....  lets try some rudder... oh, the
> sheathing on the rudder cable has inched forward and is binding... ok, fixed

> playing like a may pole....  Maybe the Gyro is gone.... disconect it and run
> the rudder without it... still the mad pirouter.... Take it home and
> disassemble the tail... yep, somthing let lose... some of the teeth are
> striped... ok, replace some parts... get ready to go back out around 1 pm,
> and a friend drops by with his LMH110 that he has just finished putting
> together (his and it's maiden flight) ... so we go with both birds... his
> won't start, I have never played with the norvell engines so WHAT IS THE
> SECRET TO STARTING THE DARN THING????  Mine gets in the air and dies about 5
> feet in the air...
> the***on the throttle side of my Thunder Tigre has backed out and the

> and locktite the***back in (yes I used blue)... ok, bird last chance of
> the day.... the darn thing goes into a tail spin again... the sheathing has
> bound.... again....  THATS IT!!  This thing is going on the bench tonight
> for a full checkup.

> so, how was your day?

> --
> Robert Mulligan


 
 
 

When a day goes wrong!!!!

Post by jimmcint.. » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00




Quote:
> I can't give any advice on the Kalt, but do have an LMH.  Make sure he
runs
> %25 fuel w/ %18 castor (like the Norvel fuel, if he doesn't mind the
cost.)
> Start with at least 3 spacers, and have plenty of extra glow plugs.  I
found
> the Norvel starts easiest at almost full throttle, so you have to hold
the
> little beast by the skids, and watch out for the blades when it does
start.

> I also bought a Sullivan 1/2A spin starter specifically for this
machine.
> Works great!!

> Good luck

> KB..............

Sounds dangerous. I run mine on 15% with two head shims and start just
above idle while holding the head the way it shows in the manual. You
can actually reach the head with your thumb to prime while using the
starter. Environment? Temperatures 75-90F humid, Elevation: ~700' ASL.

The Norvel is hard to start until it's broken in and it does seem to eat
glow plugs until then. 8-(
I followed the instructions in the manual for breakin and running and
they worked well.

--
Jim McIntyre
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Post by Robert Mulliga » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Thanks for the Info.... we did get it started today and ran a quart of fuel
thru it.  The problem was that the manufacturer didn't have the hole large
enough on the fuel tank outlet and it was starvin....
Quote:



>> I can't give any advice on the Kalt, but do have an LMH.  Make sure he
>runs
>> %25 fuel w/ %18 castor (like the Norvel fuel, if he doesn't mind the
>cost.)
>> Start with at least 3 spacers, and have plenty of extra glow plugs.  I
>found
>> the Norvel starts easiest at almost full throttle, so you have to hold
>the
>> little beast by the skids, and watch out for the blades when it does
>start.

>> I also bought a Sullivan 1/2A spin starter specifically for this
>machine.
>> Works great!!

>> Good luck

>> KB..............

>Sounds dangerous. I run mine on 15% with two head shims and start just
>above idle while holding the head the way it shows in the manual. You
>can actually reach the head with your thumb to prime while using the
>starter. Environment? Temperatures 75-90F humid, Elevation: ~700' ASL.

>The Norvel is hard to start until it's broken in and it does seem to eat
>glow plugs until then. 8-(
>I followed the instructions in the manual for breakin and running and
>they worked well.

>--
>Jim McIntyre
>http://members.tripod.com/~Jim_McIntyre

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>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

 
 
 

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Post by jimmcint.. » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00




Quote:
> Thanks for the Info.... we did get it started today and ran a quart of
fuel
> thru it.  The problem was that the manufacturer didn't have the hole
large
> enough on the fuel tank outlet and it was starvin....

Glad to hear you got it figured out. It's tough troubleshooting in text.
8-(

Happy flying!

--
Jim McIntyre
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Post by John Willoughb » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Muffler exhaust pressure tap *** out, took to work and welded up. Then
rudder servo failed, no crash, went and bought a new servo.  Tail boom
support failed, stuck some washers in there, back flying. Jeez! What a day!