CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

Post by Alex » Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:00:00



I have an ECO 8 with mechanical mixing and I control it with a Futaba 4ch FM
radio. I really want to get rid of the mechanical mixer so instead of
getting a heli radio I thought an external ccpm mixer box would be good.
Like this one http://www.quickuk.co.uk/mhup.htm second from bottom. Would it
work??? Remember that the radio is only 4 channel and I have 5 functions on
the helicopter. At the moment with the mechanical mixer there is a y harness
between the 2 aileron servos. Could I just do the same thing with the ccpm
setup and run it through the external ccpm mixer box?? Or what else could I
do??

Thanks so much,
Alex Veneziano

 
 
 

CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

Post by Pete » Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:00:00


There will be no need for the Y lead. The Quick mixer will take 3 channels
in ( aileron, elevator and collective) and convert it to 3 or 4 channel CCPM
selected on a switch.

--

Peter Wales in Sunny Orlando

Quote:
> I have an ECO 8 with mechanical mixing and I control it with a Futaba 4ch
FM
> radio. I really want to get rid of the mechanical mixer so instead of
> getting a heli radio I thought an external ccpm mixer box would be good.
> Like this one http://www.quickuk.co.uk/mhup.htm second from bottom. Would
it
> work??? Remember that the radio is only 4 channel and I have 5 functions
on
> the helicopter. At the moment with the mechanical mixer there is a y
harness
> between the 2 aileron servos. Could I just do the same thing with the ccpm
> setup and run it through the external ccpm mixer box?? Or what else could
I
> do??

> Thanks so much,
> Alex Veneziano


 
 
 

CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

Post by Phil Col » Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:00:00


The mixing unit would deal with controlling the servos.

The Y lead is still needed to control the motor and collective from
one channel. One of the Y lead outputs goes to the speed control,
and the other to the collective input on the mixing unit.

The other problem that might arise is revolution (collective to rudder)
mixing.
The mechanical mixer does this, but the CCPM mixing unit most
likely does not.

Without revo mixing, you will be on the rudder every time you make
a collective change.

Heli radios have the revo mixing built in. A
heading hold gyro would remove the need for revo mixing. You can
probably buy one of the six channel heli radio Tx units (JR 652, Futaba
6XHS)
for the cost of an HH gyro.

Quote:

> There will be no need for the Y lead. The Quick mixer will take 3 channels
> in ( aileron, elevator and collective) and convert it to 3 or 4 channel CCPM
> selected on a switch.

> --

> Peter Wales in Sunny Orlando


> > I have an ECO 8 with mechanical mixing and I control it with a Futaba 4ch
> FM
> > radio. I really want to get rid of the mechanical mixer so instead of
> > getting a heli radio I thought an external ccpm mixer box would be good.
> > Like this one http://www.quickuk.co.uk/mhup.htm second from bottom. Would
> it
> > work??? Remember that the radio is only 4 channel and I have 5 functions
> on
> > the helicopter. At the moment with the mechanical mixer there is a y
> harness
> > between the 2 aileron servos. Could I just do the same thing with the ccpm
> > setup and run it through the external ccpm mixer box?? Or what else could
> I
> > do??

> > Thanks so much,
> > Alex Veneziano

--
Phil
 
 
 

CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

Post by John Anas » Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Still have to Y the collective and throttle (speed controller) somehow...I guess
this might be possible but??? Gonna be tricky with only a four channel
radio....john
Quote:

> There will be no need for the Y lead. The Quick mixer will take 3 channels
> in ( aileron, elevator and collective) and convert it to 3 or 4 channel CCPM
> selected on a switch.

> --

> Peter Wales in Sunny Orlando


> > I have an ECO 8 with mechanical mixing and I control it with a Futaba 4ch
> FM
> > radio. I really want to get rid of the mechanical mixer so instead of
> > getting a heli radio I thought an external ccpm mixer box would be good.
> > Like this one http://www.quickuk.co.uk/mhup.htm second from bottom. Would
> it
> > work??? Remember that the radio is only 4 channel and I have 5 functions
> on
> > the helicopter. At the moment with the mechanical mixer there is a y
> harness
> > between the 2 aileron servos. Could I just do the same thing with the ccpm
> > setup and run it through the external ccpm mixer box?? Or what else could
> I
> > do??

> > Thanks so much,
> > Alex Veneziano

 
 
 

CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

Post by RHun » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Alex,
The Quick CCPM mixer is not a replacement for a 4 ch radio without heli
functions. It IS a electronic bit tah adds CCPM functions to a HELI radio that
doesnt have the function built in. I hope that clears it up for you. If you
want cheap get one of the new JR 6 channel radios. Very inexpesive and CCPM is
built in !
Regards,
Russ
 
 
 

CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

Post by Alex » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Hi,

Thanks for taking the trouble to answer.  My reason for wanting electronic
CCPM was mainly so I could use my Futaba FF6X TX which I already own.  This
already has some (minimal) Heli functions - revo mix, idle up etc, but no
ccpm.  I've bought the Quick UK unit now but I'm waiting on a spare from
Ikarus before I can fly -  hopefully it will be real soon now ;-)

Alex

Quote:

>Alex,
>The Quick CCPM mixer is not a replacement for a 4 ch radio without heli
>functions. It IS a electronic bit tah adds CCPM functions to a HELI radio
that
>doesnt have the function built in. I hope that clears it up for you. If you
>want cheap get one of the new JR 6 channel radios. Very inexpesive and CCPM
is
>built in !
>Regards,
>Russ

 
 
 

CCPM on an ECO 8 HELP!!

Post by dwk » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00


Get the Airtronics RD6000 not the JR 652. It's cheaper and has more
functions. Wish I did!


Quote:
> Alex,
> The Quick CCPM mixer is not a replacement for a 4 ch radio without heli
> functions. It IS a electronic bit tah adds CCPM functions to a HELI radio
that
> doesnt have the function built in. I hope that clears it up for you. If
you
> want cheap get one of the new JR 6 channel radios. Very inexpesive and
CCPM is
> built in !
> Regards,
> Russ