CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Paul Bro » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Upgraded hardware to a P11 350, gigabyte board, 128Mb, Voodoo3 and Windows
98. Unfortunately my existing installed version of CSM10 now doesn't work,
reporting the following error:

"runtime error 200 at 1A3B:0091"

Similar error occurs when running TXtest or Aero10.
Dongle OK and printer port OK.

Anybody help?

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Steve Lew » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Upgraded hardware to a P11 350, gigabyte board, 128Mb, Voodoo3 and Windows
>98. Unfortunately my existing installed version of CSM10 now doesn't work,
>reporting the following error:

>"runtime error 200 at 1A3B:0091"

Sounds like you have one of the early V10s that didn't like PIIs. You
can have a look at my troubleshooting page
<http://www.slewin.clara.net/csm/csmhints.htm>
but I think you'll need to contact CSM to get the latest version

--
Steve Lewin (Reading, UK)
CSM sim models, electrics and more at http://www.slewin.clara.net
Reading MAC home page http://rcplanet.com/rdmac

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Marti » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00


My V10 runs ok on a similar setup (except I don't have Voodoo).  Like Steve
said, you maybe need the newer version.  I'll e-mail you my version of
TXTEST (which is pretty tiny) so you can see if that works.  I don't know if
we are supposed to put the executables up for download (even though the
program won't run without the interface) but no doubt you could find the
latest version on the web somewhere.
Martin.


Quote:
> Upgraded hardware to a P11 350, gigabyte board, 128Mb, Voodoo3 and Windows
> 98. Unfortunately my existing installed version of CSM10 now doesn't work,
> reporting the following error:

> "runtime error 200 at 1A3B:0091"

> Similar error occurs when running TXtest or Aero10.
> Dongle OK and printer port OK.

> Anybody help?

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Aaron Marti » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Try the following (and please let me know if it helps) IF you are NOT using a
compressed drive:
(And this totally fixed CSM 10.0 under Win98 for me)

    Go to a DOS prompt.  Type:

    c:\> attrib -r c:\dblspace.bin
    c:\> ren c:\dblspace.bin dblspace.bix

If this causes any kind of problem, just rename the dblspace.bin file back.

        -- Aaron

Quote:

> Upgraded hardware to a P11 350, gigabyte board, 128Mb, Voodoo3 and Windows
> 98. Unfortunately my existing installed version of CSM10 now doesn't work,
> reporting the following error:

> "runtime error 200 at 1A3B:0091"

> Similar error occurs when running TXtest or Aero10.
> Dongle OK and printer port OK.

> Anybody help?

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Steve Lew » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Try the following (and please let me know if it helps) IF you are NOT using a
>compressed drive:
>(And this totally fixed CSM 10.0 under Win98 for me)

>    Go to a DOS prompt.  Type:

>    c:\> attrib -r c:\dblspace.bin
>    c:\> ren c:\dblspace.bin dblspace.bix

>If this causes any kind of problem, just rename the dblspace.bin file back.

As a matter of interest my Win98 machine does not have a dblspace.bin
file anywhere on the disk. Shame really because I've just reinstalled
the latest V10 and now I can't get it working again.

This is a weird one. TXTEST works fine, HELI10.EXE consistently gives
error code 208 but AERO10.EXE gives almost random error codes (I've
seen 000, 002, 012, 072, 100, 202 and 208 so far) and sometimes it
locks up solid. I've tried all the advice I usually hand out and still
nothing works. Back to Colin and Wendy I guess <g>.

--
Steve Lewin (Reading, UK)
CSM sim models, electrics and more at http://www.slewin.clara.net
Reading MAC home page http://rcplanet.com/rdmac

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Jjkl » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00


I fixed this problem by setting CPU cache
to disable in the BIOS on an asus bord.
 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Aaron Marti » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00


From your C:\ drive, type dir /ah
    You'll see dblspace.bin and/or drvspace.bin
attrib -h -s -r both of those files (I was wrong in saying just type -r) and then
rename them.  And, at least one of them IS there, guranteed.  Furthermore, to
so the OS is loading it, hold down CTRL when booting, press F8 for single
step and watch what the OS loads...you'll see it.
        -- Aaron
Quote:


> >Try the following (and please let me know if it helps) IF you are NOT using a
> >compressed drive:
> >(And this totally fixed CSM 10.0 under Win98 for me)

> >    Go to a DOS prompt.  Type:

> >    c:\> attrib -r c:\dblspace.bin
> >    c:\> ren c:\dblspace.bin dblspace.bix

> >If this causes any kind of problem, just rename the dblspace.bin file back.

> As a matter of interest my Win98 machine does not have a dblspace.bin
> file anywhere on the disk. Shame really because I've just reinstalled
> the latest V10 and now I can't get it working again.

> This is a weird one. TXTEST works fine, HELI10.EXE consistently gives
> error code 208 but AERO10.EXE gives almost random error codes (I've
> seen 000, 002, 012, 072, 100, 202 and 208 so far) and sometimes it
> locks up solid. I've tried all the advice I usually hand out and still
> nothing works. Back to Colin and Wendy I guess <g>.

> --
> Steve Lewin (Reading, UK)
> CSM sim models, electrics and more at http://www.slewin.clara.net
> Reading MAC home page http://rcplanet.com/rdmac

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Paul Bro » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Thanks Martin,

Your version of TXtest worked great. Thanks to all who replied and if Martin
is able to email me the software I should be up and running again.

Paul

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by MArmitstea » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> As a matter of interest my Win98 machine does not have a dblspace.bin
> file anywhere on the disk. Shame really because I've just reinstalled
> the latest V10 and now I can't get it working again.

Steve,
      Neither does mine.I think it depends if you have opted to have the
disk compression stuff when Win98 was installed.To check go to
add/remove programs in Control Panel,then choose windows setup at the
top.If the disk compression item in system tools is not checked then
that's probably why dblspace.bin file does not exist on your system.

Quote:
> This is a weird one. TXTEST works fine, HELI10.EXE consistently gives
> error code 208 but AERO10.EXE gives almost random error codes (I've
> seen 000, 002, 012, 072, 100, 202 and 208 so far) and sometimes it
> locks up solid. I've tried all the advice I usually hand out and still
> nothing works. Back to Colin and Wendy I guess <g>.

I have the early V10 i could send if that's any good to you to try,the
earliest V10 disk  that came with the dongle when i upgraded from V9
just after it first became available.The one that supposedly won't work
with PII's,i don't know for sure though as i have the AMD K6 2-400
processor and haven't had any problems as of yet.

Martin

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Steve Lew » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00




Quote:

>> As a matter of interest my Win98 machine does not have a dblspace.bin
>> file anywhere on the disk. Shame really because I've just reinstalled
>> the latest V10 and now I can't get it working again.

>Steve,
>      Neither does mine.I think it depends if you have opted to have the
>disk compression stuff when Win98 was installed.To check go to
>add/remove programs in Control Panel,then choose windows setup at the
>top.If the disk compression item in system tools is not checked then
>that's probably why dblspace.bin file does not exist on your system.

I've found a drvspace.bin in c:\windows\command but it doesn't get
loaded and, using selective loading, I can't find any combination of
things which I can take out which don't either a) do nothing or b)
prevent the system from loading.
Quote:

>> This is a weird one. TXTEST works fine, HELI10.EXE consistently gives
>> error code 208 but AERO10.EXE gives almost random error codes (I've
>> seen 000, 002, 012, 072, 100, 202 and 208 so far) and sometimes it
>> locks up solid. I've tried all the advice I usually hand out and still
>> nothing works. Back to Colin and Wendy I guess <g>.

>I have the early V10 i could send if that's any good to you to try,the
>earliest V10 disk  that came with the dongle when i upgraded from V9
>just after it first became available.The one that supposedly won't work
>with PII's,i don't know for sure though as i have the AMD K6 2-400
>processor and haven't had any problems as of yet.

Thanks Martin but I already have 4 different versions of V10 including
a pre-release and one Wendy sent me quite recently. They behave
slightly differently but none of them work. I have got as far as
getting error 208 consistently with both Aero10 and Heli10 but that's
the best I've managed.

I think I'll try uninstalling my LAN s/w, which is all I've added
recently, and see if that does anything.

--
Steve Lewin
Reading UK
CSM flight sim swap page (and more) at http://www.slewin.clara.net/
Reading & District MAC at http://www.rcplanet.com/rdmac

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by MArmitstea » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> I've found a drvspace.bin in c:\windows\command but it doesn't get
> loaded and, using selective loading, I can't find any combination of
> things which I can take out which don't either a) do nothing or b)
> prevent the system from loading.

Steve,
      If it doesn't work from true DOS prompt,ie pressing F8 when
"starting windows" first appears then choosing "command Promt only"
&CD'ing to the directory to run HELI10.EXE i think you can pretty much
forget anything windows might be doing.

But the autoexec has already run,so any TSR's etc could have an impact.

I know when i had a Matrox Mystique it used to crash when i experimented
with SETVBE (part of Matrox's software to extend VESA capabilities).No
error codes though just crashed the machine & put shit on the screen
whenever i tried to run HELI10 from DOS or Windows.

Quote:
> Thanks Martin but I already have 4 different versions of V10 including
> a pre-release and one Wendy sent me quite recently. They behave
> slightly differently but none of them work. I have got as far as
> getting error 208 consistently with both Aero10 and Heli10 but that's
> the best I've managed.

I thought you probably would have all the versions

Quote:
> I think I'll try uninstalling my LAN s/w, which is all I've added
> recently, and see if that does anything.

Sounds likely,if that's the only thing that's changed and it was working
then it could be the problem,you can but try.

It would help to know what these error codes 208 etc means ,i would
think.Is that generated by the CSM software rather than the OS?

Martin

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Cliff Lawso » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


c:\dblspace.bin (or similar) is usually a a hidden system file so if you

dir c:\*.bin

and don't see it then try:

dir c:\*.bin /a

and you should then see one if there is one. Alternatively just type:

attrib c:\*.bin and you'll probably see it with SHR alongside so then give
the command:

attrib -s -h -r c:\dblspace.bin and that will make it visible and allow you
to then rename it.

Cliff


Quote:

> > As a matter of interest my Win98 machine does not have a dblspace.bin
> > file anywhere on the disk. Shame really because I've just reinstalled
> > the latest V10 and now I can't get it working again.

> Steve,
>       Neither does mine.I think it depends if you have opted to have the
> disk compression stuff when Win98 was installed.To check go to
> add/remove programs in Control Panel,then choose windows setup at the
> top.If the disk compression item in system tools is not checked then
> that's probably why dblspace.bin file does not exist on your system.

> > This is a weird one. TXTEST works fine, HELI10.EXE consistently gives
> > error code 208 but AERO10.EXE gives almost random error codes (I've
> > seen 000, 002, 012, 072, 100, 202 and 208 so far) and sometimes it
> > locks up solid. I've tried all the advice I usually hand out and still
> > nothing works. Back to Colin and Wendy I guess <g>.

> I have the early V10 i could send if that's any good to you to try,the
> earliest V10 disk  that came with the dongle when i upgraded from V9
> just after it first became available.The one that supposedly won't work
> with PII's,i don't know for sure though as i have the AMD K6 2-400
> processor and haven't had any problems as of yet.

> Martin

 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by MArmitstea » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> c:\dblspace.bin (or similar) is usually a a hidden system file so if you

> dir c:\*.bin

> and don't see it then try:

> dir c:\*.bin /a

> and you should then see one if there is one. Alternatively just type:

> attrib c:\*.bin and you'll probably see it with SHR alongside so then give
> the command:

> attrib -s -h -r c:\dblspace.bin and that will make it visible and allow you
> to then rename it.

Cliff,
      I had forgotten that it could have been a hidden or system
file,but i did the search from within windows with the "show all file
types" (in view options)
enabled which usually shows hidden files,but i'll try it again because
i'm curious,it may not have been set to show all file types.I know i
once had to manually back up my registry from  Dos prompt and use the
attrib treatment on the user.da0 and system.da0 files which are in fact
the backup registry and hidden files.I don't have a problem with my own
V10 but i'm interested to see if dblspace  is hidden from windows.
 
 
 

CSM Simulator V10 and Windows 98

Post by Steve Lew » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:15:49 +0100, "Cliff Lawson"

Quote:

>c:\dblspace.bin (or similar) is usually a a hidden system file so if you

<snip>
Thanks, Aaron mentioned that. But I've been working with PCs for quite
a while now so I've already tried it. I really do mean that there is
no file called dblspace.bin anywhere on my hard disk. I've also,
several times, done a selective load so I'm certain that nothing is
even trying to load it. Bit of a puzzler really.

Martin, "view all files" works fine. You can check by seeing if IO.SYS
and MSDOS.SYS show up. They have SHR attributes set as standard. Of
course detail view shows the file attributes anyway (if that's what
it's called, I'm on NT at the moment ).

--
Steve Lewin
Reading UK
CSM flight sim swap page (and more) at http://www.slewin.clara.net/
Reading & District MAC at http://www.rcplanet.com/rdmac