Ikarus Piccolo

Ikarus Piccolo

Post by Kenny Dilg » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00



Several months ago I remember reading about this little gem and now I
have seen it on several hobby shop web sites.  My question is can a
person who has never flown an RC Helicptor actually learn how to fly
this thing?  It looks like something I would *really* be interested in
if I could learn how to do it.  

Ikaruss' web site says there is training gear included that you can
actually train your self.  Is that true?

Does anybody own this.  Is it really that cool?

Thanks,
Kenny

 
 
 

Ikarus Piccolo

Post by Jim McIntyr » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Lots of fun but not IMHO a good trainer.

If you're genuinely interested in learning to fly a heli, spend your
money on the CSM10 simulator and find some local flyers for help in
choosing the right equipment. No amount of correspondance can make up
for local experience....

--
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Ontario, Canada.
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Ikarus Piccolo

Post by Kenny Dilg » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00


On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:51:44 GMT, Jim McIntyre

I will probably get a simulater first.  My main intention for getting
this little helicopter is to have something to fly inside and around
the house when I can't really go and fly my airplanes.  It looks
really cool and would be fun to take traveling.......

Thanks,
Kenny

Quote:
>Lots of fun but not IMHO a good trainer.

>If you're genuinely interested in learning to fly a heli, spend your
>money on the CSM10 simulator and find some local flyers for help in
>choosing the right equipment. No amount of correspondance can make up
>for local experience....

>--
>Jim McIntyre
>Ontario, Canada.
>http://members.tripod.com/Jim_McIntyre
>http://www.ajaxrcclub.com/

>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

 
 
 

Ikarus Piccolo

Post by Jim McIntyr » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00




Quote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:51:44 GMT, Jim McIntyre

> I will probably get a simulater first.  My main intention for getting
> this little helicopter is to have something to fly inside and around
> the house when I can't really go and fly my airplanes.  It looks
> really cool and would be fun to take traveling.......

It does look like a lot of fun. I've seen the flying and even got to
try one. I fly helis and can tell you I wouldn't want to learn to fly
on it. flight time is limited and I doubt it would be much use outdoors
in all but calm conditions.

Still, it wasn't *that* bad. And I *would* consider buying one if the
cost wasn't so much (all-in cost (pico board etc.) is close to a 'real'
heli like a Raptor).

--
Jim McIntyre
Ontario, Canada.
http://members.tripod.com/Jim_McIntyre
http://www.ajaxrcclub.com/

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Ikarus Piccolo

Post by Rob Baile » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Oh contraire!

I have a Piccolo and I am learing to fly it. I agree that it is not an ideal
beginners machine but it has so many advantages for me that this is not
important. (One thing I can't do is easily get to a club site because of
various commitments). It does have limitations I will admit. It is a fixed
pitch machine and it doesn't fly too welel in wind - however, there are some
modifications that improve this, like t*** the trailing edge of the
blades.The best thing is of course that you can fly this thing indoors.

Some points.

1. I am learning to fly it indoors or outside when calm.

2. Flights are short, but when you are learning, much of the time the
helicopter is hopping around on the ground so it takes about 20-30 minutes
before you need to change the battery. I have 2 and I can fast charge them
in 20 minutes.

3. It is very hard wearing. No ic (gas) machine could take the knocks this
gets. I have carried out a lot of minor repairs but mostly to joints (carbon
rods).

4. I have had my Piccolo less than two weeks and I can already just about
hover. I'm repairing less. This represents about 3 or 4 full days (over
evenings and weekends).

5. There is a tremendous following and even a dedicated bulletin board so
there's plenty of help
http://www.FoundCollection.com/
kie=true.

6. This thing is pure fun, big time. There are scale bodies available (one
even has retracts) and a chap here in the UK built a blue foam scale body. I
am even planning to build an airframe myself, ***ising the important
parts. In other words, you can customise it when you have learnt to fly.

7. I am going to take lessons on my Concept 30 later this year. I feel much
more confident about this now I progressing so fast with the Piccolo.

8. You can fly it with a standard 4 channel transmitter. The electronic
controller-come-receiver-come-gyro (Piccoboard) does all of the hard work.

10. If you are serious about learning to fly a helicopter you must be
prepared to persevere anyway. I see no reason why a determined beginner
cannot get something from this machine.

(P.S. I do no sell these things or work with anyone who does - I just think
they are great).

Rob in UK


Quote:


> > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:51:44 GMT, Jim McIntyre

> > I will probably get a simulater first.  My main intention for getting
> > this little helicopter is to have something to fly inside and around
> > the house when I can't really go and fly my airplanes.  It looks
> > really cool and would be fun to take traveling.......

> It does look like a lot of fun. I've seen the flying and even got to
> try one. I fly helis and can tell you I wouldn't want to learn to fly
> on it. flight time is limited and I doubt it would be much use outdoors
> in all but calm conditions.

> Still, it wasn't *that* bad. And I *would* consider buying one if the
> cost wasn't so much (all-in cost (pico board etc.) is close to a 'real'
> heli like a Raptor).

> --
> Jim McIntyre
> Ontario, Canada.
> http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> http://www.FoundCollection.com/

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> Before you buy.

 
 
 

Ikarus Piccolo

Post by Jim McIntyr » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00




<snip>

Quote:
> 3. It is very hard wearing. No ic (gas) machine could take the knocks
this
> gets. I have carried out a lot of minor repairs but mostly to joints
(carbon
> rods).

Except for the lmh. I taught myself to fly on one and 'dorked' it many
times. never broke anything more than the gears in a servo!

Doesn't handle HEAVY winds but ok for average days. 20 minut flights!
and no recharge time delays (other than the radio). Not really an
indoor machine unless you wear earmuffs in the garage and don't mind
fuel stains.... ;)

http://www.litemachines.com/

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Ontario, Canada.
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Ikarus Piccolo

Post by Nick Muell » Sun, 13 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> It looks like something I would *really* be interested in
> if I could learn how to do it.

I startet heli-flying with a piccolo. And I know of others who got
infected. I'ts not the easiest thing to learn, it's quite impossible
outside. But you can learn when it's raining, at night, during a short
break, ... as long as it's within a building and you have 3..4 meters in
square.

Nick
--
... at least I'm one of them!

 
 
 

Ikarus Piccolo

Post by nos.. » Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:00:00




Quote:
>On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:51:44 GMT, Jim McIntyre

>I will probably get a simulater first.  My main intention for getting
>this little helicopter is to have something to fly inside and around
>the house when I can't really go and fly my airplanes.  It looks
>really cool and would be fun to take traveling.......

>Thanks,
>Kenny

Check out my Piccolo web site if you have not decided yet.  I love my
Piccolo now that I have mastered a bit of wind and can fly outside in
less than dead calm.  

And you are right, it is a great machine for traveling.  I carry mine
in the Ikarus case and have a separate case with chargers and gel
cell.  But I think you could find a large transmitter case that would
carry the transmitter, heli, and charger all in one box.  

I taught myself how to fly a heli on the Piccolo.  I'm about to fly a
Raptor for the first time hopefully this weekend, and I am sure I will
find out how much easier the larger helis are to fly.  BUT, the
Piccolo has its place and it is not impossible to learn how to fly a
heli using it.  

See my sig for my web site.

Paul Goelz
Rochester Hills, MI
pgoelz at eaglequest dot com
Piccolo electric helicopter web page:
http://www.eaglequest.com/~pgoelz/piccolo1.html