FF8 setup

FF8 setup

Post by np1.. » Sun, 21 Mar 1999 04:00:00



Hi

Ive just ordered my heli from QuickUk (incredible prices and very
professional service) and now Im waiting for it.

As a complete begginer  Ive been told that I shouldnt use the Heading
Hold mode on my GY501 nor in the CSM sim, because the heli can have some
strange reactions, is that true?

Any tips for the FF8 setup for the CSM sim? And for the Kyosho Concept
32 VR parameters in the sim?

Thanks,

Joaquim Fonseca

 
 
 

FF8 setup

Post by Guillaume Hasto » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Hello Joachim ,
    Ive just ordered my heli from QuickUk (incredible prices and very professional service) and now Im waiting for it.
You will wait forever , we're a fake company !! Ha , got you !!  
;-) Just kidding . Thanks for buying from Quick Uk (i'm one of their test pilots).
    As a complete begginer  Ive been told that I shouldnt use the Heading
    Hold mode on my GY501 nor in the CSM sim, because the heli can have some strange reactions, is that true?
I think Martin answered you already ( he flys also MH-Design , and does amazing 3D stuff with his Robbe-Futuras) . But here's my answer anyway: The most common use of HH gyros is HH-mode for hovering and 3Ding (backwards flight and stuff) and Normal-mode for most of the FAI manouvers ( loops , stall turns etc. etc. ) . Now for you (hovering) , try to learn using the HH-mode , it's really a great flying help.
    Any tips for the FF8 setup
Tell me which heli you bought. But QuickUK sells ccpm helis (3 servos for collective) , and the FF8 doesn't support that unless you get the ccpm module from QuickUk .Make sure you get it.

Bye,

Guillaume

http://www.hastoy.com - R/C helicopters
downloadable videos
MH-Design online shopping

 
 
 

FF8 setup

Post by MArmitstea » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>>      Any tips for the FF8 setup

> Tell me which heli you bought. But QuickUK sells ccpm helis (3 servos
> for collective) , and the FF8 doesn't support that unless you get the
> ccpm module from QuickUk .Make sure you get it.

 Guillaume,
            Strictly speaking he doesn't necessarily need the mixer,but
if he doesn't have the newer FF8 Super,the radio will still work CCPM
but needs two mixers programming which is fiddly and leaves no P mix
mixers free to use for anything else,but it is possible to do,so using a
seperate CCPM mixer module would better(to start with).The latest FF8
Super has it's own generic 3 servo 120deg CCPM mixer built in now.

But i'm not sure wether it's a Morley Maverick,F1 or Kyosho Concept 32VR
that is being bought from Quick UK,so the CCPM stuff could be
irrelevent.

Martin

 
 
 

FF8 setup

Post by np1.. » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Its a Kyosho Concept 32 VR and a FF8 Super (PCM) radio.
 
 
 

FF8 setup

Post by Guillaume Hasto » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Hi Martin ,
    if he doesn't have the newer FF8 Super,the radio will still work CCPM but needs two mixers programming
I've tried a few times to use those 2 PMX on a standard FF8 to simulate ccpm control but i could never make it right !! Here's what i did :
1) Set the swashplate control mode to 2-servos (H2)
2) 1st PMX : coll-->elev  ; i now have the coll. and ail. working in ccpm correctly
3) 2nd PMX : elev-->coll ; now the elev control almost works in ccpm mode but there still lacks a pmx for elev-->ail to make the swashplate move properly ( and not with an "off" timing like it does for elev.)

So how do you manage to solve that problem ? Maybe some tricky use of these PMX "LINK" functions ?

Thanks,

Guillaume

http://www.hastoy.com - R/C helicopters
downloadable videos
MH-Design online shopping

 
 
 

FF8 setup

Post by MArmitstea » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> I've tried a few times to use those 2 PMX on a standard FF8 to
> simulate ccpm control but i could never make it right !! Here's what i
> did :
> 1) Set the swashplate control mode to 2-servos (H2)
> 2) 1st PMX : coll-->elev  ; i now have the coll. and ail. working in
> ccpm correctly
> 3) 2nd PMX : elev-->coll ; now the elev control almost works in ccpm
> mode but there still lacks a pmx for elev-->ail to make the swashplate
> move properly ( and not with an "off" timing like it does for elev.)

> So how do you manage to solve that problem ? Maybe some tricky use of
> these PMX "LINK" functions ?

Guillaume,
          Yes i think the LINK function has to be used.Let me state that
i haven't personally used my own FF8 on a CCPM heli or had occasion to
test the mixer setup at all,i'm only relating what i've read from a
couple of heli flyers who have made it work.
     If you're interested i'll e-mail one of them (Jeff Barringer)and
find out again exactly how it was achieved,i didn't store the info at
the time.

Martin

 
 
 

FF8 setup

Post by J W Schermerhor » Wed, 24 Mar 1999 04:00:00


3/23/99

It's probably a good idea to learn how to control the tail of your heli'
with the gyro set in the regular rate mode first. If you don't,you may
not be able to handle it if the gyro should fail. When you become
proficient with the tail control you can go to the heading hold (HH)
mode,which can be a big help for aerobatics. It will also force you to
make coordinated turns using both the left/right cyclic with tail
control.

Quote:

> Hi

> Ive just ordered my heli from QuickUk (incredible prices and very
> professional service) and now Im waiting for it.

> As a complete begginer  Ive been told that I shouldnt use the Heading
> Hold mode on my GY501 nor in the CSM sim, because the heli can have some
> strange reactions, is that true?

> Any tips for the FF8 setup for the CSM sim? And for the Kyosho Concept
> 32 VR parameters in the sim?

> Thanks,

> Joaquim Fonseca