ARC's Web Page Updated - Dec. & 1996 Events

ARC's Web Page Updated - Dec. & 1996 Events

Post by S Pon » Wed, 20 Dec 1995 04:00:00



Congrats to John Terrey for a terrific magazine.  I've subscribed since
1986 and have every copy from #2.  I would LOVE to have the ads on line,
in a way I could search by word for items...  Highly recommend this to
antique radio collectors.  It also is the central focus for finding books
, diagrams, other collectors & spinoff collectors ie; hifi, calculators,
etc.  Continued reading of it will give you a clue as to what things are
really worth and how the prices are trending.  Certain small transistors
have shot way past catalin prices almost overnite, for instance. Thanks
John!
 
 
 

ARC's Web Page Updated - Dec. & 1996 Events

Post by David Gonsho » Wed, 20 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Why is it some are enamored with how high prices are going on some
items?  I collect radios because I am enamored with old radios, not for
profit, nor for the value of my collection.  The higher prices go, the
less I'll be able to enjoy this great hobby.  If some transistors really
are getting higher than catalin prices (a big IF), I think that is sad.  
A hobby must be affordable to the masses of collectors to survive.  One
final note:  checking selling prices in ARC is not necessarily an
indication of the going price for a piece.  What did the piece actually
sell for? That's the real indicator.  And then, only a small indicator.  
What does a particular piece regularly sell for?  I could easily run an
ad in ARC to sell a cracked 1950 AA5 Motorola plastic for $1000.  That
does not indicate it's value, even if someone is fool enough to buy it
for $1000.  I don't own a cracked Motorola, by the way.  No email offers
please.

 
 
 

ARC's Web Page Updated - Dec. & 1996 Events

Post by David Gonsho » Wed, 20 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Why is it some are enamored with how high prices are going on some
items?  I collect radios because I am enamored with old radios, not for
profit, nor for the value of my collection.  The higher prices go, the
less I'll be able to enjoy this great hobby.  If some transistors really
are getting higher than catalin prices (a big IF), I think that is sad.  
A hobby must be affordable to the masses of collectors to survive.  One
final note:  checking selling prices in ARC is not necessarily an
indication of the going price for a piece.  What did the piece actually
sell for? That's the real indicator.  And then, only a small indicator.  
What does a particular piece regularly sell for?  I could easily run an
ad in ARC to sell a cracked 1950 AA5 Motorola plastic for $1000.  That
does not indicate it's value, even if someone is fool enough to buy it
for $1000.  I don't own a cracked Motorola, by the way.  No email offers
please.
 
 
 

ARC's Web Page Updated - Dec. & 1996 Events

Post by David Gonsho » Wed, 20 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Why is it some are enamored with how high prices are going on some
items?  I collect radios because I am enamored with old radios, not for
profit, nor for the value of my collection.  The higher prices go, the
less I'll be able to enjoy this great hobby.  If some transistors really
are getting higher than catalin prices (a big IF), I think that is sad.  
A hobby must be affordable to the masses of collectors to survive.  One
final note:  checking selling prices in ARC is not necessarily an
indication of the going price for a piece.  What did the piece actually
sell for? That's the real indicator.  And then, only a small indicator.  
What does a particular piece regularly sell for?  I could easily run an
ad in ARC to sell a cracked 1950 AA5 Motorola plastic for $1000.  That
does not indicate it's value, even if someone is fool enough to buy it
for $1000.  I don't own a cracked Motorola, by the way.  No email offers
please.
 
 
 

ARC's Web Page Updated - Dec. & 1996 Events

Post by David Gonsho » Wed, 20 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Why is it some are enamored with how high prices are going on some
items?  I collect radios because I am enamored with old radios, not for
profit, nor for the value of my collection.  The higher prices go, the
less I'll be able to enjoy this great hobby.  If some transistors really
are getting higher than catalin prices (a big IF), I think that is sad.  
A hobby must be affordable to the masses of collectors to survive.  One
final note:  checking selling prices in ARC is not necessarily an
indication of the going price for a piece.  What did the piece actually
sell for? That's the real indicator.  And then, only a small indicator.  
What does a particular piece regularly sell for?  I could easily run an
ad in ARC to sell a cracked 1950 AA5 Motorola plastic for $1000.  That
does not indicate it's value, even if someone is fool enough to buy it
for $1000.  I don't own a cracked Motorola, by the way.  No email offers
please.
 
 
 

ARC's Web Page Updated - Dec. & 1996 Events

Post by Padgett 0siri » Thu, 21 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>Congrats to John Terrey for a terrific magazine.  I've subscribed since
>1986 and have every copy from #2.  I would LOVE to have the ads on line,
>in a way I could search by word for items...  

So would I. Was subscribed for a while but dropped out when I found that
Central Florida is not favored by the postal service & *every* good deal I
called about over a two month span was gone even though the ad had just come
out.

It was just too depressing. BTW I tried to send the TO FAQ to John to put
online (seemed like a natural place) but the mail kept bouncing

Btw, here in Florida, this is the time of year when the For Sale signs start
popping up in every yard, not because the people really want to sell but
because they want to see if some northerner is dumb enough to pay enough
(incidently if anyone is interested in a 2300 sq ft house a mile from
Universal Studios in a sidewalked neighborhood with a garage/workshop big
enough to park two max-stretch limo's side by side...8*).

Consequently, is also the time of year for maxi-prices to pop up on items.
One way to tell a dealer from a fanatic is that the fanatic will go into
booring detail while dealers often do not even get the model number right.

Dealers on the other hand are not looking to sell to a fanatic, they are
looking to sell to the *spouse/child* who is trying to get something special
for their spice/parental unit and Christmas is always a good time. Since a
monthly car payment is now $300-$500, a large, hard to find present that is
not made in the same range is probably not a cause to blink so what we have
seen recently may not reflect collector value at all, just those who feed on
yuppies in action.

We went into this pretty deep some time ago (really need to start thinking
about a web page - problem is that my home provider wants an extra $20/
month. Am working onnit) but generally a dealer will be charging about
150-200% of the collector/market price *because he/she must* (is their rice
bowl) and as a dealer must contend with***ering plus returns if they
expect to stay in business. Can see both sides.

So my question for those who are not in a backwater like Orlando is "Are
prices going up or are we just seeing normal activity ? - my sample is too
small to tell.

                        A. Padgett Peterson, P.E.
                        ***netic Psychophysicist
                   Totally Obsessed with TransOceanics
                      My other car is a Pontiac too
                           We also walk dogs
                       PGP 2.7 Public Key Available

 
 
 

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Post by Oldradio » Sun, 24 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>>>It was just too depressing. BTW I tried to send the TO FAQ to John to

put
online (seemed like a natural place) but the mail kept bouncing


 
 
 

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Post by Barry Zimmerm » Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:00:00




/
/>Congrats to John Terrey for a terrific magazine.  I've subscribed since
/>1986 and have every copy from #2.  I would LOVE to have the ads on line,
/>in a way I could search by word for items...
/
/So would I. Was subscribed for a while but dropped out when I found that
/Central Florida is not favored by the postal service & *every* good deal I
/called about over a two month span was gone even though the ad had just come
/out.
/
/It was just too depressing. BTW I tried to send the TO FAQ to John to put
/online (seemed like a natural place) but the mail kept bouncing

/
/Btw, here in Florida, this is the time of year when the For Sale signs start
/popping up in every yard, not because the people really want to sell but
/because they want to see if some northerner is dumb enough to pay enough
/(incidently if anyone is interested in a 2300 sq ft house a mile from
/Universal Studios in a sidewalked neighborhood with a garage/workshop big
/enough to park two max-stretch limo's side by side...8*).
/
/Consequently, is also the time of year for maxi-prices to pop up on items.
/One way to tell a dealer from a fanatic is that the fanatic will go into
/booring detail while dealers often do not even get the model number right.
/
/Dealers on the other hand are not looking to sell to a fanatic, they are
/looking to sell to the *spouse/child* who is trying to get something special
/for their spice/parental unit and Christmas is always a good time. Since a
/monthly car payment is now $300-$500, a large, hard to find present that is
/not made in the same range is probably not a cause to blink so what we have
/seen recently may not reflect collector value at all, just those who feed on
/yuppies in action.
/
/We went into this pretty deep some time ago (really need to start thinking
/about a web page - problem is that my home provider wants an extra $20/
/month. Am working onnit) but generally a dealer will be charging about
/150-200% of the collector/market price *because he/she must* (is their rice
/bowl) and as a dealer must contend with***ering plus returns if they
/expect to stay in business. Can see both sides.
/
/So my question for those who are not in a backwater like Orlando is "Are
/prices going up or are we just seeing normal activity ? - my sample is too
/small to tell.
/
/                        A. Padgett Peterson, P.E.
/                        ***netic Psychophysicist
/                   Totally Obsessed with TransOceanics
/                      My other car is a Pontiac too
/                           We also walk dogs
/                       PGP 2.7 Public Key Available
/

    As informative as the ARC has been, both my copies since I have
subscribed and the one's I borrowed before, I am now giving it up.
My expiring 2nd class subscription was no less satisfying than the first
class one.  I didn't get anything either way, but it cost me less to
get the same "already sold" answer.  Whether it is the mail service,
the mailing schedule, or the sellers letting stuff go before the ads
appear, my phone bill but not my collection reflect my dilligence in
pursuing radios.  I have had good luck with pickers, and I seem to pay
no more for the radios.

    As far as prices go, I believe Florida has more of a shortage than
even this DC area does, so you pay for the few good things.

    The one thing which is most difficult for someone like me who attempts
to finance his hobby by buying, restoring, and selling radios is that
the bottom has dropped out of the market.  The $40 to $100 radios which
had payed the way are nearly impossible to sell.  On the other hand,
the stuff I, and everyone else want, are selling well above book prices.
 Supply of the hard-to-sell stuff is great while the good stuff is nearly
depleted from the old attics.  Early battery stuff (pre 1925) and wireless
never shows up at auctions around here anymore.

    I know!!!  Whine, whine.  Maybe the memory of buying cathedrals
for $5-10 and bringing them home on the handlebars or bringing the
Stratosphere home in the red wagon from the back room of the Zenith
dealer in town is too great a contrast to today's famine.

    They were indeed the good old days.

    Still looking.

    BZ