> I AGREE WITH RON WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LINE ABOUT NOS MEANING NEW
> BUT NO WARANTEE. IF YOU BUY IT FROM ME THE WARANTEE IS AS GOOD AS THE
> DAY IT WAS MADE.
It's obvious that the word "guarantee" in today's "English" is not a good
choice - the terms guarantee, guaranty, warrantee and warranty are
becoming increasingly interchangeable - and the differences are becoming
muddied. Here are two sentences using each word correctly in context.
"Bill (the Warranter) offers a Warrant to the Warrantee that Guarantees
that any N.O.S. item purchased from him is as good as the day it was
made. But Bill cannot Guaranty anyone else's obligations but his own."
Without starting a debate about the subtle differences in the
applications of the words - it's probably a good idea to find a better
Here is an example of the type of "item" that is both "N.O.S." and -
should NOT be assumed to be as good as the day it was made: Selenium
Rectifiers. They are known to deteriorate sitting on a shelf. Yet -
they can be New Old Stock - esp. when made in the late 50's, and still in
the original "blister pack" packaging from the factory.
If something truly is "as good as the day it was made" - I think that
should not be a N.O.S. For instance: a part that is in a vacuum sealed
can -- that isn't what I would call New Old Stock - (while it is New -
Unused - may be very old - and may have been sitting on the shelf for a
very long time - the fact that it's also "pristine" raises it above the
implied "shelf wear" of N.O.S.) - the vacuum and the can have (likely)
preserved the item so that in spite of sitting on a shelf - the item has
been protected from oxidation, chemical contamination, dust, humidity,
etc. - i.e. has not suffered from any "shelf wear"...
The intent is to express that while new and vintage - there is an implied
meaning within N.O.S. that the part may be less reliable or be
cosmetically slightly less than a new or recent part due purely to it's
age and "shelf wear"... Ok - some word wizard want to try and
rephrase it so it makes sense?
I'll take one more cut at it -
N.O.S = A new - unused item of vintage manufacture that while new - may
have some functional or cosmetic flaw due purely to "shelf wear" or
"shelf life". Vintage manufacture implies an item made at the time it
was used in the manufacture of the original equipment it was used in - as
opposed to more recent replacement or replica manufacture. Shelf wear is
minor cosmetic or other flaws that have been caused purely by the item
being exposed to air, humidity, air-borne contaminants, dust, handling,
etc. Such flaws might be slight discoloration, fading, oxidation,
tarnishing, etc. Shelf life may effect certain components level of
functionality - as many components are chemical based (electrolytic and
wax capacitors, selenium rectifiers, etc.) whose ability to function to
original specifications may be impaired by natural chemical deterioration
/ decomposition; or metallic based - which may be oxidized or tarnished
to the point they cannot work as when originally made. Many of these
minor maladies may be corrected through cleaning, treatment, etc.;
however, one should take shelf wear and shelf life into consideration
when considering N.O.S. items.
that's my .02 on nos...
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