OT - FREE alternate to Paypal

OT - FREE alternate to Paypal

Post by Rowlan » Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:55:02



Quote:

>They advertised it as FREE and now they want a FEE .

>False advertising.

>---Joe---

How did you get to false advertising because they are instituting a fee for services
policy?  

Instead of being grateful for the time that you got something for nothing from those
working people who had to put in time at their business so you could enjoy a free
give away, you're sniveling and whining like the rest of the little leaches because
you lost your free *** meal.

Instead, you should be signing on out of gratitude with the new fee based service
because they are still one of the cheapest around.  By the way, one of their services
is still free.  They have just put a limit on the amount that can be paid to your
account in a 30 day period with a credit card.  So much for "false advertising".

What a greedy slob Paypal is to expect that it should be paid for the time, effort,
and labors of its owners and employees.  Paypal should hang it's head in shame for
ignoring the sacred chant, "From those according to their abilities, to those
according to their needs."

My stomach is growling, somebody whip out that government mammary gland so I can take
a hit and squelch these hunger pains at somebody else's expense.

 
 
 

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Post by Mike » Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:42:51


Rowland-

 in the beginning there was a "promise" about never having to charge due to
the profit made from the "float" on the accounts. Apparently that did not
make enough. I think the real issue with a good many people is not the
charge per say.. as it's the 'ttude that went with the leveling of the
charge and that fact it can be a deal breaker depending on the amount.
People with Paypal are use to it being "free".. and not remembering that a
purchase with a credit card is at least a 3% hit to the merchant.  Paypal
would not have flown at all if it were not for the arrogance of the credit
card companies regarding setting up a merchant account, the rules, the
rental of the equipment, the promise of X amount of boz or we will ding you
anyways and so on.

I dont think the paypal thing is much more then a lousy job of communicating
business realities to people who were used to something "free"

Just my 2% worth ;)

Mike S


Quote:

> >They advertised it as FREE and now they want a FEE .

> >False advertising.

> >---Joe---

> How did you get to false advertising because they are instituting a fee
for services
> policy?

> Instead of being grateful for the time that you got something for nothing
from those
> working people who had to put in time at their business so you could enjoy
a free
> give away, you're sniveling and whining like the rest of the little
leaches because
> you lost your free *** meal.

> Instead, you should be signing on out of gratitude with the new fee based
service
> because they are still one of the cheapest around.  By the way, one of
their services
> is still free.  They have just put a limit on the amount that can be paid
to your
> account in a 30 day period with a credit card.  So much for "false
advertising".

> What a greedy slob Paypal is to expect that it should be paid for the
time, effort,
> and labors of its owners and employees.  Paypal should hang it's head in
shame for
> ignoring the sacred chant, "From those according to their abilities, to
those
> according to their needs."

> My stomach is growling, somebody whip out that government mammary gland so
I can take
> a hit and squelch these hunger pains at somebody else's expense.


 
 
 

OT - FREE alternate to Paypal

Post by Stevenra » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:47:47


Hi All! I basically stopped accepting Paypal - and certainly stopped promoting
it in Ebay auctions - when they got so greedy they started charging sellers
even though sellers did not get money quicker than customer sending by mail.

I buyer today pointed me to "Yahoo Pay Direct". Yahoo got smart when Paypal got
greedy. They offer same service and at NO CHARGE - at least currently. I'm sure
they'll change their mind sooner or later but, for now, this service is free to
both buyer and seller and I plan to offer it it. It can be used for Ebay as
well as Yahoo auctions.

I don't want this thread to be a discussion of Paypal practices. I just wanted
to share this info with others on the list since it hasn't received any press
coverage (that I know of.).

Info and sign up is at http://paydirect.yahoo.com/

They don't offer any sign up bonus so I'm not getting anything from sharing
this info, except satisfaction that Paypal will begin to lose more business.

Steve

 
 
 

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Post by Rowlan » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:52:43



Quote:
>when they got so greedy they started charging sellers

Why is it greedy to charge for a service rendered?  Their fees are nothing compared
to maintaining a merchants Visa or MC account, let alone the paper blizzard that goes
with it.
 
 
 

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Post by Steve Phipp » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:09:18


Paypal followed Ebay's successful business philosophy early on... offer
everything free at first and operate in the red, get everyone hooked and
become the market leader, then start charging to make up for the early
losses. Works like a charm on the Internet!

If Paypal wants to start charging, then that's their business. If customers
don't like it, they can either complain or leave, though I seriously doubt
many will...

SP


Quote:
> Perhaps you forget !

> They advertised it as FREE and now they want a FEE .

> False advertising.

 
 
 

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Post by Stevenra » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:53:27


Quote:
>Why is it greedy to charge for a service rendered?  Their fees are nothing
>compared
>to maintaining a merchants Visa or MC account, let alone the paper blizzard
>that goes
>with it.

But MC and VISA don't hold your money for 3-5 business days for one. And 2, If
you can get same service for free with PayDirect, why would you want to use
Paypal?

Then again, you get money just as quick by accepting Money Orders by mail.

S

 
 
 

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Post by Stevenra » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:55:45


Quote:
>If Paypal wants to start charging, then that's their business. If customers
>don't like it, they can either complain or leave, though I seriously doubt
>many will...

Well I know of many dealers who have dropped Paypal logo from their Ebay lists.
With the new Yahoo service, I think they will be signing up. I centainly did.

It was eather that or padding shipping charges.

S

 
 
 

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Post by John Goller, K9U » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:01:34



says...

Quote:
>Well I know of many dealers who have dropped Paypal logo from their Ebay
lists.
>With the new Yahoo service, I think they will be signing up. I centainly
did.
>It was eather that or padding shipping charges
>S

I see many sellers are now stating in their auctions...that yes they still
take Pay Pal.....but if you want to use it then the Buyer has to pay the
additional Pay Pal charges....
John k9uwa
 
 
 

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Post by Rowlan » Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:16



Quote:
>But MC and VISA don't hold your money for 3-5 business days for one. And 2, If
>you can get same service for free with PayDirect, why would you want to use
>Paypal?

>Then again, you get money just as quick by accepting Money Orders by mail.

This was not the issue.  The issue was the declaration that PayPal was greedy because
they charged for a service they rendered.  If an individual doesn't want to pay for
the service, fine, go somewhere else.  Don't whine because they won't subsidize your
activities for free.

And when PayDirect has a large user base and then converts to a fee for service
business, will the leaches sign on after the free ride or will they whine and moan
about another "greedy" business that cut them off.

 
 
 

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Post by Rowlan » Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:04:53


Quote:

> in the beginning there was a "promise" about never having to charge due to
>the profit made from the "float" on the accounts. Apparently that did not
>make enough.

Go back over the last two years or so and look over the posts from a certain few on
this newsgroup.  There is the same "bash the greedy slobs who want to earn a profit"
bunch that foam at the mouth over any issue that relates to someone that may be
making a profit on an activity where there has been an investment in time, money , or
effort.

They are the same elements that orbit around a nucleus composed of the belief that
basic capitalism is evil and you are obligated to give according to your abilities,
to others according to their needs.  If you don't give it up for free, you have no
"social" conscience.