Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by toxcrusad » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:55:10



A friend of mine showed me this last night, I had never seen one in
person.  It's a tabletop sized box about 20" on a side, 8" high or
so.  Lid lifts up to reveal the mechanism.  It has a large MIRA decal
under the lid.  It is crank driven (of course).  They have a binder
with 10 or 20 of the about 14" tin/steel/zinc/whatever they are disks
for it, and it runs, kinda.  I think some of the "keys" are sticking
and some of the disks are not flat so they go TWINK T*** T*** as
they go around.

I am mostly curious about the age - what era were these made?  I would
guess 1880 to 1900, but if anyone knows better...  One disk was J P
Sousa, Stars and Stripes, but you can't necessarily date the player by
the date of composition of the music on a disk that may have been
bought considerably later.

Tox

 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by Buck Frobishe » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:31:17


I have no advice to offer you, tax, but rather a question: did you get any
photos?  I'd love to see the device...!


Quote:
>A friend of mine showed me this last night, I had never seen one in
> person.  It's a tabletop sized box about 20" on a side, 8" high or
> so.  Lid lifts up to reveal the mechanism.  It has a large MIRA decal
> under the lid.  It is crank driven (of course).  They have a binder
> with 10 or 20 of the about 14" tin/steel/zinc/whatever they are disks
> for it, and it runs, kinda.  I think some of the "keys" are sticking
> and some of the disks are not flat so they go TWINK T*** T*** as
> they go around.

> I am mostly curious about the age - what era were these made?  I would
> guess 1880 to 1900, but if anyone knows better...  One disk was J P
> Sousa, Stars and Stripes, but you can't necessarily date the player by
> the date of composition of the music on a disk that may have been
> bought considerably later.

> Tox


 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by Ron in Radio Heave » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:34:44


Google is an really good way to find info on just about anything.
I searched "MIRA disk player" and got this;
http://www.FoundCollection.com/

Ron

Quote:

> I have no advice to offer you, tax, but rather a question: did you get any
> photos?  I'd love to see the device...!



>> A friend of mine showed me this last night, I had never seen one in
>> person.  It's a tabletop sized box about 20" on a side, 8" high or
>> so.  Lid lifts up to reveal the mechanism.  It has a large MIRA decal
>> under the lid.  It is crank driven (of course).  They have a binder
>> with 10 or 20 of the about 14" tin/steel/zinc/whatever they are disks
>> for it, and it runs, kinda.  I think some of the "keys" are sticking
>> and some of the disks are not flat so they go TWINK T*** T*** as
>> they go around.

>> I am mostly curious about the age - what era were these made?  I would
>> guess 1880 to 1900, but if anyone knows better...  One disk was J P
>> Sousa, Stars and Stripes, but you can't necessarily date the player by
>> the date of composition of the music on a disk that may have been
>> bought considerably later.

>> Tox

 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by Alan Dougla » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:01:13


Mira boxes were made by Mermod Freres in Switzerland and imported here
in some numbers.  I've found references to 12" and 18 1/2" disks.  The
name Mira was registered as a trade mark in October 1902.

Alan

 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by Ron in Radio Heave » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:01:43



Quote:
> On which page I can't find anything "Mira".

Sure there is, you just have to look beyond the first page.
Use their search button for Mira and you'll find lots of stuff.

It's not always just handed to you, sometimes you have
to work a little for it.

Ron

 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by Randy or Sherry Gutter » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:40:54



Quote:
> Sure there is,

No, there's not, not on that page.

 > you just have to look beyond the first page.

Then why didn't you note that in the first place? Or better yet just
post the correct link?

Quote:
> It's not always just handed to you, sometimes you have
> to work a little for it.

I did and posted a link to over 40 pictures, and a link to an ebay sale
that had several nice pictures with lots of details.  So what's your
problem?

sheesh
  --
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com

 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by Ron in Radio Heave » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:08:15



Quote:
> So what's your problem?

Stupid people, which encompasses about 98% of the
general population,
and those that expect someone else to do everything for them.

Ron

 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by Jeffrey D Angu » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:58:11


Quote:

> It belonged to my father's parents, and was likely an heirloom from one
> of their parents.  It so fascinated me, that although they died in late
> 50's--early 60's, I kept track of who got it through my *** life.
> Alas, it was destroyed in a flooded ba***t apparently in the 80's.

My dad's mother had one. He really wanted it, but his sister snagged
it. Must have made quite an impression on him too, his will read,
"And to my sister, she already took enough."

Not sure what happened to it, but I think it became one of those, "Why
do we keep this, it's in the way, get rid of it" items that too often
spells the end of an object.

Jeff

 
 
 

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Post by Randy or Sherry Gutter » Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:08:55


Quote:

>> So what's your problem?


Quote:
> Stupid people, which encompasses about 98% of the
> general population,
> and those that expect someone else to do everything for them.

OK - so you're a jerk to everyone except those that kiss your butt.
That's nice. Plonk.
--
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com

 
 
 

Mira music box w/perf metal disks

Post by toxcrusad » Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:43:12



Quote:
> Mira boxes were made by Mermod Freres in Switzerland and imported here
> in some numbers. ?I've found references to 12" and 18 1/2" disks. ?The
> name Mira was registered as a trade mark in October 1902.

> Alan

Thanks for that info Alan, so that dates it to around the turn of the
century.

I too went to Maddie's and used the search function, but it did not
list Mira as one of the brand names you could select.  I tried putting
Mira in the text search box and the searched bombed out, along with
other combinations I tried.  I did find one Mira console on there.
Some of their stuff is beautiful, and pricey!

Tox

 
 
 

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Post by Brenda An » Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:24:37




Quote:


>>> So what's your problem?


>> Stupid people, which encompasses about 98% of the
>> general population,
>> and those that expect someone else to do everything for them.

> OK - so you're a jerk to everyone except those that kiss your butt. That's
> nice. Plonk.
> --

Is this really any way to start out a brand new year? Short tempers do not
become folks that otherwise are very informative and genial most of the
time.

But Ron, it is customary to link directly to a discussed item when possible.

 
 
 

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Post by Randy or Sherry Gutter » Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:04:18


Quote:

> Is this really any way to start out a brand new year? Short tempers do not
> become folks that otherwise are very informative and genial most of the
> time.

Couldn't agree more. Being a keyboard player for 50+ years  - I enjoy a
most everything that "makes music". So when the link provided didn't
seem to go anywhere I found - and posted - what I did. When I got called
stupid and lazy over it - it didn't really bother me any - I just
dropped him in the same hole with skippy. They can insult each other to
their hearts content. My Happy New Year isn't going to be spoiled by his
bah humbug. Don't let him spoil yours either.

best regards...
--
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com