High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Life without a bre » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Err I've seen some very high priced R/C... what's the difference?

And what can you say about the thought of using allow rims in lieu of
the nylons or plastics found on stock kits??

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by cruu » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00


what do you mean by very high priced.. what kit?

alloy rims are great looking but if you are not careful you can bend
them and then you're fuxed.

for the big price tag its probably not worth it unless you are just
gonna have em for show or something and driving easy


Quote:

>Err I've seen some very high priced R/C... what's the difference?

>And what can you say about the thought of using allow rims in lieu of
>the nylons or plastics found on stock kits??


 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Tom Markert, N3W » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>what do you mean by very high priced.. what kit?

>alloy rims are great looking but if you are not careful you can bend
>them and then you're fuxed.

FUXED? BUHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
I've been searching my alread to busy/bruised brain for a suplement
term for that word!  May I use that one ?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA I'm
laughing out loud and the wife is looking at me like I've gone mental!
gonna tell her to FUX off!
Quote:
>for the big price tag its probably not worth it unless you are just
>gonna have em for show or something and driving easy



>>Err I've seen some very high priced R/C... what's the difference?

>>And what can you say about the thought of using allow rims in lieu of
>>the nylons or plastics found on stock kits??

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by cruu » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00


go right ahead man.

heheh


Quote:


>>what do you mean by very high priced.. what kit?

>>alloy rims are great looking but if you are not careful you can bend
>>them and then you're fuxed.

>FUXED? BUHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
>I've been searching my alread to busy/bruised brain for a suplement
>term for that word!  May I use that one ?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA I'm
>laughing out loud and the wife is looking at me like I've gone mental!
>gonna tell her to FUX off!
>>for the big price tag its probably not worth it unless you are just
>>gonna have em for show or something and driving easy



>>>Err I've seen some very high priced R/C... what's the difference?

>>>And what can you say about the thought of using allow rims in lieu of
>>>the nylons or plastics found on stock kits??

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Life without a bre » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Like for example PICCOS... nearly a quarter of a thousand dollars for
the lowest...

Quote:
>what do you mean by very high priced.. what kit?

>alloy rims are great looking but if you are not careful you can bend
>them and then you're fuxed.

>for the big price tag its probably not worth it unless you are just
>gonna have em for show or something and driving easy



>>Err I've seen some very high priced R/C... what's the difference?

>>And what can you say about the thought of using allow rims in lieu of
>>the nylons or plastics found on stock kits??

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Life without a bre » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00



Quote:

>laughing out loud and the wife is looking at me like I've gone mental!
>gonna tell her to FUX off!

Wish I could... But then again, I have to ask her to return the rear
Kyosho tyres that's just too wide for my kit.
 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by cruu » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


picco engines u mean?   they arent that much unless you are looking at
a .21 racing engine.. then you can start getting into the bucks.

but a .12 or a .15 shouldnt be more than 150 USD


Quote:


>Like for example PICCOS... nearly a quarter of a thousand dollars for
>the lowest...

>>what do you mean by very high priced.. what kit?

>>alloy rims are great looking but if you are not careful you can bend
>>them and then you're fuxed.

>>for the big price tag its probably not worth it unless you are just
>>gonna have em for show or something and driving easy



>>>Err I've seen some very high priced R/C... what's the difference?

>>>And what can you say about the thought of using allow rims in lieu of
>>>the nylons or plastics found on stock kits??

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Life without a bre » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


They also have kits and the one I remember is US$795.00...

Quote:
>picco engines u mean?   they arent that much unless you are looking at
>a .21 racing engine.. then you can start getting into the bucks.

>but a .12 or a .15 shouldnt be more than 150 USD

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Redwol » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


 Yup you nailed that price right on the button. thats for the Picco Integra
1/8 Kit, it includes an engine, header and pipe though. Not a bad price for
the car and engine.  i have one, Still puttin it together, but the engine it
came with is be far the best i've ever owned. It'll run forever, starts up
very easily normally on the first bump after i prime the fuel.

If your racing, and thats really what some of these cars are intended for,
its not a bad price at all. The 1/10th version is around 400-500 with then
engine i believe.  When you start talking about these cars, its like
comparing a Nascar to a Formula one car... The upfront costs are alot more,
and the maintence are more..

I don't wanna argue over the whole nascar/indy thing again. Was justing
using it as an example. Just seems like Nascars are open to a wider range of
budgets than the indy cars are.

If your racing, your gonna wanna be competitive, and its seems there's be
ALOT more work put into the performance handling etc of the racing cars,
like serpent, mugen, picco, neo, SMP etc... You don't normally see these
cars just sitting on the shelf in most hobby shops, they normally have to be
special ordered, unless your lucky enuff to have alot of racers in the area.



Quote:

> They also have kits and the one I remember is US$795.00...

> >picco engines u mean?   they arent that much unless you are looking at
> >a .21 racing engine.. then you can start getting into the bucks.

> >but a .12 or a .15 shouldnt be more than 150 USD

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Life without a bre » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00




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Quote:

>If your racing, your gonna wanna be competitive, and its seems there's be
>ALOT more work put into the performance handling etc of the racing cars,
>like serpent, mugen, picco, neo, SMP etc... You don't normally see these
>cars just sitting on the shelf in most hobby shops, they normally have to be
>special ordered, unless your lucky enuff to have alot of racers in the area.

So, it is meant for racing. Hmmm... Just like Serpent, Mugen and
others... Awww... so HPI, Kyosho, Tamiya, are for kids?! (Like me,
ahurm I am 31 going 30 this year.) Hehe.

I noticed that their attention to detail is rather remarkable. That
engine in the US$795 kit includes the new conical clutch right?

Ok, let's just say for example, I bought myself a $295.00 kit and
upgraded it using every single penny out of the price difference of
US$500.00, would this souped-up car be at par or beat the stock
US$795.00 Picco Integra??

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Redwol » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00




Quote:


> So, it is meant for racing. Hmmm... Just like Serpent, Mugen and
> others... Awww... so HPI, Kyosho, Tamiya, are for kids?! (Like me,
> ahurm I am 31 going 30 this year.) Hehe.

 Hehe, yup they are pretty much for kids. Not saying they won't give the
others a run for the money, but there's just more support  from the others
for racers. Which sometimes have more experience.

Us non-experts normally want stronger (AL upgrades) and faster cars.. Seems
the Experts want lighter, more reliable and predictable cars. i actually
watched the guys complaining about grams of weight a fuel tank added to the
car. Another reason most of them don't have pull starters, other than some
simply can't fit the pullstart on the chasis. They are an odd bunch of
people :)   But its us non-experts that make races fun to watch, doing the
70+ mph down the straight, and not being able to make the next turn and get
in an accident, tehehe.

Quote:
> I noticed that their attention to detail is rather remarkable. That
> engine in the US$795 kit includes the new conical clutch right?

 Yeah, it does have the cone clutch.. I LOVE IT!, has got to be the simplest
to setup. Requires the daily maintence as do the other clutches, but
compared to the proceed clutch setup, I prefer the integras and even use it
on the proceed and trashed the stock proceeds.

Quote:
> Ok, let's just say for example, I bought myself a $295.00 kit and
> upgraded it using every single penny out of the price difference of
> US$500.00, would this souped-up car be at par or beat the stock
> US$795.00 Picco Integra??

I'm sure you could, but a kit at 295? your looking at a 1/10th scale.
Integra is 1/8th at the 795, they do have a 1/10th version of it.

Difference i see from the race cars and our basher cars is, the basher car
will be thrown in the garage and pulled out for the next days bashing, or
next weekends bashing. Just refuel and go. Check for broken parts maybe.

on my 1/8th i have to re-grease and reoil the car, after a weekend or day of
driving depending how much i drove the car. Just to keep the parts from
wearing out to quickly. they see to go faster, and have more power than the
1/10ths and have an increased wear on the parts, not to mention what the
speeds do it sometime. Always funny when my clutch bell is running at a
higher temp. than the engine is when the clutch shoe starts to glass up and
slip.

Which brings us to the parts that wear out quickly. Pretty much are the
tires and clutch shoes, and thrust bearings. I put on a new set of tires,
practiced for pretty much 4 hours on an oval, and my tires/clutch shoe were
trashed at the end of the night. did that with my tmaxx and rc10 and tires
and everything else were fine.  I'm hoping the *** tires that
parisracing.com sells will last longer and give good grip.

IF you want to dedicate the time, money and patience get a 1/8th onroad or
even the 1/10th versions of them, they are alot of fun, seem to handle
better out of the box than the traxxas, hpi NRs4 etc. I like the 1/8 cause
with the bigger size they handle better for me. And sometimes don't really
require that many hop-ups. Alot of these kits since they are race ready
cars, already include sway bars, roll bars, adjustable turnbuckles etc. If
you add up the reciepts at the end of the day, they are pretty close,

example, You can buy an NRS4 for 300 bux and then spend the 300 for upgrades
as you want them.. Or you spend the 700 up front and get it all at once.
Sometimes it just comes down to budget

If you ask about buying an 1/8th scale car like i did. Most people say DO
NOT BUY ONE. They are expensive, hard to find parts for, and sometimes just
to fast for most to drive... these are all VERY true points about them.
Unless your lucky and have alot of 1/8th drivers and the LHS stock parts for
them.

Ohh and don't go asking the question whats the fastest engine you can get..
that seems to upset people too, i did that and now know why..

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Life without a bre » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00


<snipped>

Quote:
>If you ask about buying an 1/8th scale car like i did. Most people say DO
>NOT BUY ONE. They are expensive, hard to find parts for, and sometimes just
>to fast for most to drive... these are all VERY true points about them.
>Unless your lucky and have alot of 1/8th drivers and the LHS stock parts for
>them.

Well, the 1/8ths are most usual here in my country. I mean the
highends that you mentioned. To think about the fact that being in a
third world country, it should be smaller.

Quote:

>Ohh and don't go asking the question whats the fastest engine you can get..
>that seems to upset people too, i did that and now know why..

Why?
 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Redwol » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Well, the 1/8ths are most usual here in my country. I mean the
> highends that you mentioned. To think about the fact that being in a
> third world country, it should be smaller.

Yeah i don't know why they are so popular everywhere else cept her ein the
states. Maybe its cause your ina backwards country, and thats why the 1/8
seem to be just as popular as the 1/10ths, and  in the uS its vice versa...
Or is it us that are ass backwards. Ohh well... Long as we're getting more
and more people into the hobby, they'll bring the prices down.. Thats all
that matters. and fun of course :)

Quote:
> >Ohh and don't go asking the question whats the fastest engine you can
get..
> >that seems to upset people too, i did that and now know why..
> Why?

Cause most of the *** racers are always looking for ways to shave a
1/10th of a second off their lap times. and its a GOOD driver that gets
around the track the fastest, not a fast motor. It seems to be common
practice for them to  tune DOWN their motors for the different tracks, cause
the power some of these 21's put out of rediculous.  And I'm finding myself
needing carb restrictors to properly drive my car with some kind of
consistency.

I now prefer my slower Picco G1 to the much faster HPI 21rsc. More control,
and i'm able to drive at higher speeds around the track, instead of just
down the straights into the corner walls. teheh

 
 
 

High Priced Gas R/C and Stock Rims vs. Alloy Rims

Post by Life without a bre » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>Cause most of the *** racers are always looking for ways to shave a
>1/10th of a second off their lap times. and its a GOOD driver that gets
>around the track the fastest, not a fast motor. It seems to be common
>practice for them to  tune DOWN their motors for the different tracks, cause
>the power some of these 21's put out of rediculous.  And I'm finding myself
>needing carb restrictors to properly drive my car with some kind of
>consistency.

>I now prefer my slower Picco G1 to the much faster HPI 21rsc. More control,
>and i'm able to drive at higher speeds around the track, instead of just
>down the straights into the corner walls. teheh

Ahhh... Yes. I do agree. It's not really the speed in most cases...
It's your sustained speed. :)