Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by MaShaun Jone » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Simple question but noone seems to be able to give straight easy answer.

Why is reverse banned in most racing?

MaShaun

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by K??K/M?£?D » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00


I was thinking about that the other day when a younger kid in our
club was asking. I couldn't at the time think of a real good reason,
(other than 'just don't do it'... :-).
I got thinking later that it might have something to do with the safety
of other cars and flow of the race.
I noticed how many crashes there are during practicing before races
start. I found that a lot happened just as someone who was nosed-
first in the wall began to reverse back into the flow of traffic. People
who are stuck tend to focus on their car more than the cars headed
towards them. If they just backed up instead of being marshalled by
a 'hopefully' competent marshall, they run the chance of becoming
a speed bump.
Thats all I came up with anyhow. Probably a lot of much better
reasons...

Kirk

Quote:

> Simple question but noone seems to be able to give straight easy answer.
> Why is reverse banned in most racing?
> MaShaun


 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by Ken Tro » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>Simple question but noone seems to be able to give straight easy answer.

>Why is reverse banned in most racing?

Imagine the chaos that could happen. Someone could park their car in
a tight turn, and there could be a huge frieght train of traffic
approaching the turn. A good turn marshall will wait for the traffic to go
by, but a frustrated racer with reverse might back up in front of
everyone, causing a nice pileup, and perhaps some broken cars.  That
doesn't seem too fair to me.

ken

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by MaShaun Jone » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00


thats what I was thinking too but you would hope people would play nice
but.. yea I know.. human nature. At least it wsnt some deep seeded
reason due to performance or anything else.

MaShaun

Quote:


> >Simple question but noone seems to be able to give straight easy answer.

> >Why is reverse banned in most racing?

> Imagine the chaos that could happen. Someone could park their car in
> a tight turn, and there could be a huge frieght train of traffic
> approaching the turn. A good turn marshall will wait for the traffic to go
> by, but a frustrated racer with reverse might back up in front of
> everyone, causing a nice pileup, and perhaps some broken cars.  That
> doesn't seem too fair to me.

> ken

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by Rick Russe » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00




Quote:
> towards them. If they just backed up instead of being marshalled by
> a 'hopefully' competent marshall, they run the chance of becoming a
> speed bump.  Thats all I came up with anyhow. Probably a lot of much
> better reasons...

That's the only reason. Corner marshalls can make sure the car goes
down when there is no dangerous traffic.

You will note that full-sized race cars have no reverse either. Aside
from the weight savings, it prevents overzealous drivers from backing
out of minor crash in the hope of getting back in the race, only to
cause another crash.

Rick R.

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by Tom » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Simple question but noone seems to be able to give straight easy answer.

> Why is reverse banned in most racing?

Because it's hard enough trying to dodge a car that is stopped; trying to
dodge a car traveling backwards would be a nightmare.

If you crash, you'd be tempted to use reverse to back out into traffic off
of the boards.  This has extremely high crash potential.  Believe me; it
really sucks if you're racing and doing a good race just to run into
someone backing up into your line.

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Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by Tom » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00



(*SNIP!*)

Quote:

> You will note that full-sized race cars have no reverse either. Aside
> from the weight savings, it prevents overzealous drivers from backing
> out of minor crash in the hope of getting back in the race, only to
> cause another crash.

Although this is slightly off-topic, Indy cars do have reverse (when
they're running on road courses).

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Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by PoisonousG » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00


The reason why it's banned is because cars with reverse would have an
unfair advantage timewise over a non-reverse car.

It would take a lot longer for a marshall to fix a stuck car whereas the
"reverse" car can just back up and continue......

PoisonousGas

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by Tom » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> The reason why it's banned is because cars with reverse would have an
> unfair advantage timewise over a non-reverse car.

> It would take a lot longer for a marshall to fix a stuck car whereas the
> "reverse" car can just back up and continue......

The idea is to not get stuck in the first place. . .

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TTTTT   OO   M   M The sixth sick shiek's sixth sheep's sick.   |~~~|

  T    O  O  M M M So if it is in it or if it is on it, it is     *  
  T     OO   M   M        as it is, be it in it or on it.        `-'

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by HCamper1 » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>Simple question but noone seems to be able to give straight easy answer.

>Why is reverse banned in most racing?

That's an easy one. If you have a bunch of cars speeding around a track, and
they brush against one another there usually isn't much damage. If however you
take a car and back it out into the flow of traffic, very *** collisions
occur often resulting in damage to both cars involved. A stalled car near the
edge of the track can be easily avoided - but when you never known exactly when
or how fast, or how far a car is going to back up into the track it really
makes it hard for you to avoid a crash. Out here we have an "amateur" truck
class where almost everyone has a reversible speed controller and is allowed to
use it (god knows why..). It is a circus out there, one truck backs out into
the track and gets run over by 2-3 other trucks who didn't see him coming, turn
marshals  head out to try to free a stuck truck and end up getting run over as
the operator jams it into reverse - of turn marshals assume that reverse will
save any truck so they don't react quickly to a truck that gets high- centered.
 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by P. Campbe » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> (*SNIP!*)

>> You will note that full-sized race cars have no reverse either. Aside
>> from the weight savings, it prevents overzealous drivers from backing
>> out of minor crash in the hope of getting back in the race, only to
>> cause another crash.

> Although this is slightly off-topic, Indy cars do have reverse (when
> they're running on road courses).

    As do ALL rally / off-road cars , IROC ( they ARE mostly stock , hence
 HAVE to have reverse ) and I suspect many others ... I suggest Rick should
 have thought a tad more before making such a sweeping statement !

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Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by John Hawkin » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


The main reason is the horrendous crashes it causes. The guy who's stuck it in the fence is just as likely to reverse straight out
in front of the oncoming traffic. Plus, it gives more of an incentive to aim at mistake-free driving.

The bottom line is it improves the quality of racing - from every perspective.

John Hawkins
Adrenalin Model Motorsport
www.adrenalinracing.com


|
| > The reason why it's banned is because cars with reverse would have an
| > unfair advantage timewise over a non-reverse car.
| >
| > It would take a lot longer for a marshall to fix a stuck car whereas the
| > "reverse" car can just back up and continue......
|
| The idea is to not get stuck in the first place. . .
|
| ___
| TTTTT   OO   M   M The sixth sick shiek's sixth sheep's sick.   |~~~|

|   T    O  O  M M M So if it is in it or if it is on it, it is     *
|   T     OO   M   M        as it is, be it in it or on it.        `-'
|
|

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by cunawari » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Although this is slightly off-topic, Indy cars do have reverse (when
> they're running on road courses).

So do Formula 1 cars, or at least the did have them.
 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by Matt Verroc » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Because somebody would back out into traffic and cause an accident.



Quote:
>Simple question but noone seems to be able to give straight easy answer.

>Why is reverse banned in most racing?

>MaShaun

 
 
 

Why are reverses not allowed in racing?

Post by kcob » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00



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>The reason why it's banned is because cars with reverse would have an
>unfair advantage timewise over a non-reverse car.

>It would take a lot longer for a marshall to fix a stuck car whereas the
>"reverse" car can just back up and continue......

Nah, fair/unfair advantages have never had anything to do
with racing. The reason it is not allowed is the potential it
causes for more wrecks. Unlike a fullsize race car that
is in reverse, most rc drivers would just backup without
paying attention to the oncoming traffic.

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