Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Douglas R. Neuber » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00



OK both kits look good for a newby like me. Both come with a radio and both
have replacement parts readily available. Both have aluminum frames (I like
the Rustlers look better). The Rustler comes with a Traxxs Pro .15 motor the
ST comes with a .12 motor. Both have a good warranty. Someone please tell me
which one I want to get for Christmas.

Thanks,
Doug

 
 
 

Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Dennis Cla » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> OK both kits look good for a newby like me. Both come with a radio and both
> have replacement parts readily available. Both have aluminum frames (I like
> the Rustlers look better). The Rustler comes with a Traxxs Pro .15 motor the
> ST comes with a .12 motor. Both have a good warranty. Someone please tell me
> which one I want to get for Christmas.

  The Nitro Rustler has gotten most excellent revues here and in RCCA.  The
Duratrax one is an unknown.  If you are risk-averse, the Traxxas is the one
to get.  However, that said, DO NOT GET THE RTR!  The Traxxas radio is
pure ***and will give you fits forever.  For the same price you can get
any other manufacturer's low-end radio and be much happier.  To keep the
price down I would recommend the Hitec Lynx radio for about $55, or the
Hitec Lynx FM for about $100 if you want to go FM.  The non-RTR Nitro
Rustler still comes about 90% built and about all you will have to do is
add the radio to get it going.  Also, the Traxxas comes with a tuned pipe,
does the Duratrax?  I haven't seen this one yet.

DLC
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Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Rick Russe » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00




Quote:
> OK both kits look good for a newby like me. Both come with a radio

Let's compare.

Traxxas is a giant in the sport R/C industry. Their replacement parts
are available at many hobby shops. Many hop-ups are available for both
the Rustler nitro and electric to improve performance. Traxxas has a
long history of quality sport vehicles.

Duratrax is a supplier of various small parts to Great Planes. They've
never made a car kit before. Most of their stuff appears to be
repackaged Kyosho equipment. No one on the net has the car. It's never
been sold before now. There are no replacement parts in stock in hobby
shops.

Well gee, I can tell you which one _I_ would buy :-)

Rick R.
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Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Dan » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>   The Nitro Rustler has gotten most excellent revues here and in RCCA.  The
> Duratrax one is an unknown.  If you are risk-averse, the Traxxas is the one
> to get.  However, that said, DO NOT GET THE RTR!  The Traxxas radio is
> pure ***and will give you fits forever.

Very true.  The next door neighbors have to traxxas RTR's with the radios.
The servos gears keep stripping and the range is next to nill.  We
replaced one radio with a Hitec AM, major improvement.

  For the same price you can get

Quote:
> any other manufacturer's low-end radio and be much happier.  To keep the
> price down I would recommend the Hitec Lynx radio for about $55,

Be careful when buying, though, some only come with one servo.  You need
two for a gas powered vehicle.

 or the

Quote:
> Hitec Lynx FM for about $100 if you want to go FM.

Another good choice if the budget allows, this one comes with the ball
bearing servos, a nice touch.

  The non-RTR Nitro

Quote:
> Rustler still comes about 90% built and about all you will have to do is
> add the radio to get it going.  Also, the Traxxas comes with a tuned pipe,
> does the Duratrax?  I haven't seen this one yet.

Don't forget you'll need to paint the body.  The Duratrax comes
pre-painted I believe.  But still its a no brainer, the Traxxas has a very
good rep (except for radios).
 
 
 

Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Matt Verroc » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>>   The Nitro Rustler has gotten most excellent revues here and in RCCA.  The
>> Duratrax one is an unknown.  If you are risk-averse, the Traxxas is the one
>> to get.  However, that said, DO NOT GET THE RTR!  The Traxxas radio is
>> pure ***and will give you fits forever.

>Very true.  The next door neighbors have to traxxas RTR's with the radios.
>The servos gears keep stripping and the range is next to nill.  

FWIW: If those Traxxas Servos are the 2018 models, the Futaba S-148 (now
S3003?) gear replacement kit fits perfectly.  I still have a Traxxas Servo I
use, maybe their servo saver is junk?

<snip>

 Matt

 
 
 

Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Dennis Cla » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:


> >>   The Nitro Rustler has gotten most excellent revues here and in RCCA.  The
> >> Duratrax one is an unknown.  If you are risk-averse, the Traxxas is the one
> >> to get.  However, that said, DO NOT GET THE RTR!  The Traxxas radio is
> >> pure ***and will give you fits forever.

> >Very true.  The next door neighbors have to traxxas RTR's with the radios.
> >The servos gears keep stripping and the range is next to nill.  

> FWIW: If those Traxxas Servos are the 2018 models, the Futaba S-148 (now
> S3003?) gear replacement kit fits perfectly.  I still have a Traxxas Servo I
> use, maybe their servo saver is junk?

  I doubt the 3003 will work, I know the S-148 will.  On opening the 3003,
I found it has no bushings, just plastic on plastic (like the Hitec 303),
hmmm, I wonder if there is a relationship between these numbering systems?

DLC
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Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Douglas R. Neuber » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00


I ended up getting the Rustler from Towerhobbies (my girlfriend ordered it
yesterday). I did however get the radio from the local guys at Performance
Hobbies in Webster, NY. They sold me a JR Python for $69.00 and a Nitro
starter kit with all the goodies I will need to get this thing going. They
were also nice enough to shoot the shit with me about the parts and extras
..... for like 1.5 hours last night. Also they said when you get your new
truck even though you did not buy it from us bring it in and we will help
you get the motor started and broken in correctly, set up the radios and
servos and setup the suspension and show you how to drive it and limit the
carb so it won't go real fast while I am learning. They will do all this for
FREE!!! and I did not buy the truck from them. WOW they will get all my
future purchases.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my "newby" questions and have a nice
Holiday Season.

Doug


 
 
 

Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Dan » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
> >Very true.  The next door neighbors have to traxxas RTR's with the radios.
> >The servos gears keep stripping and the range is next to nill.  

> FWIW: If those Traxxas Servos are the 2018 models, the Futaba S-148 (now
> S3003?) gear replacement kit fits perfectly.  I still have a Traxxas Servo I
> use, maybe their servo saver is junk?

I don't think so, I have the same setup on my Stampede and I'm using the
old school futaba servo that came with my magnum, the kind with the
exposed pins on the end of the servo wire and its taken lots of abuse.
Both cars have the servo savers installed and they have similar slack in
them. That and the fact that several kids in the 'hood have had the same
problem with their Traxxas servos (on my street we alone we have 6 Traxxas
vehicles).  It does happen more on the Stampedes than the Rustlers though,
its probably the larger tires.

Dan

 
 
 

Duratrax Maximum ST or Traxxas Rustler RTR

Post by Robert J. Ansb » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00


It depends on what you want. If this is your first time with radio
control as a hobby, I would advise you to not get a gas (nitro, glow,
whatever you want to call it) vehicle; the linkage setup is a pain, and
the things that can keep you in the pits (things that go wrong) are much
greater, and often have more complicated solutions. But, I do think that
you have picked two good beginner R/C kits, and I think you should go
with the Traxxas, here is why:
1. You can get the kit as a NON-RTR setup; trust me, it may seem like a
pain to spend a few nights building the thing instead of bashing it
around, but when something goes wrong (it will happen eventually) you
will need to know how to fix it. Building the car makes you get to know
your machinery; and with a nitro vehicle you will want to know how to
take apart the various engine connections. Oh, by the way, you really
should not get the Traxxas TQ Radio; it is not very good because it has
poor readings, looks like a pig, and has many less features you will
want to use in the future.
2. The Traxxas Nitro Rustler, although not as competed as the RC10 GT or
Losi GTX, still is used all over for Sunday-type racer, so you will be
able to find all the cool hopups for it if you decide to race. I don't
know about the DuraTrax car, but c'mon, the thing is too big and heavy
looking to be as fast as a Rustler, and too small to be raced as a
Monster Truck. It just doesn't fit, yet. I'm not sure, maybe it'll start
a whole new class of vehicle, but... it won't.
3. The DuraTrax is pretty ugly and childish looking, comes with wheels
way too knobby to be any good on a track, and has a g*** (anyone
played the game Spyro?) paint job compared to the things you could do
with a Traxxas.

Oh, if you really want a vehicle that is just awesome looking, has
extreme power, and is made well with an RTR (I still don't recomend it)
setup, try the Schumacher Nitro 21 XTreme (it's just way to powerful for
it's own good, and is total kick ass overkill to the XTreme!!!)

Robert Joseph Ansbro