Anyone else getting this spam?

Anyone else getting this spam?

Post by SuzanneH » Thu, 30 Apr 1998 04:00:00



I received this - I couldn't believe the nerve of these people to use Brian
Kerkvliet's name to peddle their arthritis product. Anyone else getting this?
Or know these spammers?
Suzanne Hye

<<Subj:    Good day Suzanne
Date:   98-04-29 08:29:25 EDT


Hi from Dean & Sue Spire

What phase of glass are you into?  Weve been working with
flat glass / Stained Glass for about 25 years now.  We also
became involved with fusing in the early 1980s.

We are very lucky people, from another standpoint, in that we met,
quite by chance/accident, Brian Kerkvliet in 1986.  What a talented
person, plus, Sue & I both think he is a really neat guy!

Okay, youre asking yourself,

Why did these people email me, just to brag up Brian?

                                  NO

Ill admit to you that we have used Brians name as a mutually
respected,  friend/acquaintance to get your attention!

So let me tell you the REAL reason we are writing to you.

At 60, both of us have found marvelous new aches and pains
(ha ha!) that has made working with glass, tougher and tougher.
I had my left knee rebuilt back in 1982 and Sue has had
osteoarthritis for quite a few years which has given her knee pain too.

Yes, we imagine that most of you probably are NOT 60 and you are, at
this time, very tempted to hit the TRASH key to delete this message!  

            HOLD ON just a moment before you do that!

PLEASE trust me and read on!  Maybe . . just maybe we (you &/or we)
can help you or someone you love!

About 11 months ago, quite by accident, we found some natural
products that actually makes it possible for us to bend, kneel and walk,
(EVEN up and down steps) WITHOUT pain!

We had already changed our way of eating about 4 years ago, to a lower
fat, very little meat (and then mainly chicken, turkey and fish) diet.  That
made us feel better but the achey knees and other joints still persisted!

As I said before, about 11 months ago, we came across
something that has certainly changed our lives!

The product is Essential Minerals! . . . . .

. . . . .And not just any ole Minerals, but ones that are not only
plant source minerals, but are ionic, too!  The ONLY ones
that weve found to meet that criteria are the ones distributed by
New Vision International (NVI) of Scottsdale, Arizona!

Also, recently, we have found 2 other products, again all natural,
that have helped us, even more, when taken in conjunction with
the Essential Minerals!

From a totally different prospective, we have found another
amazing concept! That is that NVI, a 4 year old Company,
is run on the principle/priority of:
God is 1st; Your family 2nd; and your work 3rd!

               NOW THIS  IS  A  CONCEPT  WE  LIKE,
               APPRECIATE  AND  CAN  LIVE  BY!

In the dog-eat-dog world that we all live in today, we feel that
particular set of principles/priorities is a fairly good way to live!

Are you wondering what the bottom line is to all of this?

Well, we still do Stained Glass as well as some bead making.  

                                AND

we have experienced some MAJOR changes to our general
wellness! So much so that weve decided to become involved with
New Vision Intl. and to see if we could help others, and . . . .

                            GUESS WHAT???

Weve been able to bring relief to MANY others . . our friends, our
family members. .plus a whole bunch of other people!!

What does all of this mean?

We would REALLY like to talk to you or ANYONE else, at our
expense, that you know of that may have a health concern.  Out of
that conversation we would hope that we are able to find
someone else that we can help.

Maybe, just maybe, THEY will feel better, too!
So, please, before you hit the trash button, hit the reply button
and give us the info. needed so we can contact that person.

We would like VERY much to help them, too!! Also, some more
GREAT news is that on 1 March, NVI came out with an old
concept / new product that helps to do away with joint pain* !!

Reply to us!     Maybe, just maybe your response to us will give
both of  TWO things . . . .  we can make some new friends & both
of us will be able to help some more people!?

Keep cutting straight!

Best Regards from your friends in glass,      

Dean and Sue Spire

* Were not allowed to use the word arthritis, so we dont!!

IMPORTANT   NOTICE:
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send a request for removal but you may do so if you
wish.  If you are not interested in seeing if you can
maybe help others, or interested in a possible business
opportunity, simply discard our offer, AND

GOD BLESS and have a GREAT day, in WHATEVER youre doing!!

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Anyone else getting this spam?

Post by Jeffrey Castalin » Thu, 30 Apr 1998 04:00:00


SPAM is a fact of life. Get used to it and learn to treat it with the lack of
importance it deserves. Get a good email program with filters so you can
automatically delete garbage email that has key words like FREE, MONEY, PROFIT,
HEALTH etc., in the subject line. Eudora Lite is a freeware program that is better
than most email programs you have to pay for. Just search for it on the net. Don't
bring spam into discussions. Just delete it. It desen't deserve to be discussed or
even noticed.

Jeffrey Castaline
Partner/Artisan

Aanraku Stained Glass & Hobby Workshop
2323 S. El Camino Real
San Mateo, CA 94403

650/372-0527

http://home.earthlink.net/~aanraku/stainedglass

Quote:

> I received this - I couldn't believe the nerve of these people to use Brian
> Kerkvliet's name to peddle their arthritis product. Anyone else getting this?
> Or know these spammers?
> Suzanne Hye

> <<Subj:  Good day Suzanne
> Date:   98-04-29 08:29:25 EDT


> Hi from Dean & Sue Spire

> What phase of glass are you into?  Weve been working with
> flat glass / Stained Glass for about 25 years now.  We also
> became involved with fusing in the early 1980s.

> We are very lucky people, from another standpoint, in that we met,
> quite by chance/accident, Brian Kerkvliet in 1986.  What a talented
> person, plus, Sue & I both think he is a really neat guy!

> Okay, youre asking yourself,

> Why did these people email me, just to brag up Brian?

>                                   NO

> Ill admit to you that we have used Brians name as a mutually
> respected,  friend/acquaintance to get your attention!

> So let me tell you the REAL reason we are writing to you.

> At 60, both of us have found marvelous new aches and pains
> (ha ha!) that has made working with glass, tougher and tougher.
> I had my left knee rebuilt back in 1982 and Sue has had
> osteoarthritis for quite a few years which has given her knee pain too.

> Yes, we imagine that most of you probably are NOT 60 and you are, at
> this time, very tempted to hit the TRASH key to delete this message!

>             HOLD ON just a moment before you do that!

> PLEASE trust me and read on!  Maybe . . just maybe we (you &/or we)
> can help you or someone you love!

> About 11 months ago, quite by accident, we found some natural
> products that actually makes it possible for us to bend, kneel and walk,
> (EVEN up and down steps) WITHOUT pain!

> We had already changed our way of eating about 4 years ago, to a lower
> fat, very little meat (and then mainly chicken, turkey and fish) diet.  That
> made us feel better but the achey knees and other joints still persisted!

> As I said before, about 11 months ago, we came across
> something that has certainly changed our lives!

> The product is Essential Minerals! . . . . .

> . . . . .And not just any ole Minerals, but ones that are not only
> plant source minerals, but are ionic, too!  The ONLY ones
> that weve found to meet that criteria are the ones distributed by
> New Vision International (NVI) of Scottsdale, Arizona!

> Also, recently, we have found 2 other products, again all natural,
> that have helped us, even more, when taken in conjunction with
> the Essential Minerals!

> From a totally different prospective, we have found another
> amazing concept! That is that NVI, a 4 year old Company,
> is run on the principle/priority of:
> God is 1st; Your family 2nd; and your work 3rd!

>                NOW THIS  IS  A  CONCEPT  WE  LIKE,
>                APPRECIATE  AND  CAN  LIVE  BY!

> In the dog-eat-dog world that we all live in today, we feel that
> particular set of principles/priorities is a fairly good way to live!

> Are you wondering what the bottom line is to all of this?

> Well, we still do Stained Glass as well as some bead making.

>                                 AND

> we have experienced some MAJOR changes to our general
> wellness! So much so that weve decided to become involved with
> New Vision Intl. and to see if we could help others, and . . . .

>                             GUESS WHAT???

> Weve been able to bring relief to MANY others . . our friends, our
> family members. .plus a whole bunch of other people!!

> What does all of this mean?

> We would REALLY like to talk to you or ANYONE else, at our
> expense, that you know of that may have a health concern.  Out of
> that conversation we would hope that we are able to find
> someone else that we can help.

> Maybe, just maybe, THEY will feel better, too!
> So, please, before you hit the trash button, hit the reply button
> and give us the info. needed so we can contact that person.

> We would like VERY much to help them, too!! Also, some more
> GREAT news is that on 1 March, NVI came out with an old
> concept / new product that helps to do away with joint pain* !!

> Reply to us!     Maybe, just maybe your response to us will give
> both of  TWO things . . . .  we can make some new friends & both
> of us will be able to help some more people!?

> Keep cutting straight!

> Best Regards from your friends in glass,

> Dean and Sue Spire

> * Were not allowed to use the word arthritis, so we dont!!

> IMPORTANT   NOTICE:
> You are not on a mailing list.  You do not need to
> send a request for removal but you may do so if you
> wish.  If you are not interested in seeing if you can
> maybe help others, or interested in a possible business
> opportunity, simply discard our offer, AND

> GOD BLESS and have a GREAT day, in WHATEVER youre doing!!

> ----------------------- Headers --------------------------------

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> Received: from eros.localnet.com (eros.localnet.com [206.42.104.29])
>           by rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0)

>           Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:27:31 -0400 (EDT)
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> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16)
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:27:00


> Subject: Good day Suzanne
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


 
 
 

Anyone else getting this spam?

Post by Steve - Linux Use » Thu, 30 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> SPAM is a fact of life. Get used to it and learn to treat it with the > lack of importance it deserves. Get a good email program with filters > so you can automatically delete garbage email that has key words like > FREE, MONEY, PROFIT, HEALTH etc., in the subject line.

1)  Ignoring it won't make it go away.  
2)  It uses bandwidth which would be better devoted to the subject at
hand.
3)  It takes 5 seconds to see where it came from, and 30 seconds to
write a complaint
4)  Complaining *is* effective most of the time, particularly with
e-mail spam. (*) see below for example

Quote:
> Don't bring spam into discussions. Just delete it. It desen't deserve > to be discussed or even noticed.

  Then why did you quote the *whole* thing back?!?  Particularly when it
was an e-mail to begin with.  What was the point in bringing to Usenet?

5)  When we do make these forays out of the glass world and into the
spam world, DON'T quote the spam!  It just gives them more exposure, and
you have just compounded the "crime."

--
Steve Ackman                                        
Metamorphosis Glassworks Page         http://people.delphi.com/stackman
GLASS HOST & Assistant Manager    of     The Delphi Arts & Crafts Forum
                     http://www.delphi.com/crafts

(*)

Subject: SPAM UPDATE: Was: Please Help!!
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:20:28 -0400 (EDT)

UPDATE:  
The account responsible for sending out this SPAM, was terminated for
violations of Mindspring's AUP. Additionally, we also received word that

canceled for violations of their AUP...

 
 
 

Anyone else getting this spam?

Post by SuzanneH » Fri, 01 May 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>SPAM is a fact of life. Get used to it and learn to treat it with the lack of
>importance it deserves

No duh, as my ten-year-old says.  THIS spam was different.  This spam used
Brian Kerkvliet's name as an "in" to get me to open and read this mail.  It
purported to be from real glassworkers actually interested in the work I'm
doing.  This is beyond the pale as far as the usual spam goes.  I wrote to
Brian and guess what?  He knew nothing about it...does that surprise you?  If
it were your name being used in spam to promote a product you do not endorse,
wouldn't you appreciate someone notifying you of it?  If you didn't think it
was important, you could have saved your valuable  time and not written to the
group AND to me personally.

And speaking of this particular spam...does anyone out there actually know
these hucksters? I brought it to the attention of the group because I do not
think an artist like Brian should be used this way, especially without his
knowledge or consent, and I think the group as a whole should be made aware of
the scam.

Suzanne "That's My High Horse and I'm Getting Off It Now" Hye