Dealing with Illegal and tacky spam

Dealing with Illegal and tacky spam

Post by Dave Mun » Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>Please read the following and think it over. If you don't like it, then
>Don't do it - it's no big deal. But if you've got a dream, maybe this is

>for
>you!

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Here's what one successful participant has to say:
>THIS MAY BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT LETTER YOU RECEIVE THIS YEAR!

        Greetings and Salutations from the Dweller In the Citystate of the
Vincible Overlord.
        Please note that the best way I have found to deal with this sort
of abuse is to check the headers to find where it ACTUALLY came from,
and then send a full copy of the spam, with an accompanying, sharp

        I have a satisfying collection of notes back from the authorities
at various sites saying things from "this user has been warned" to
"this user's account has been suspended."
        I ASSUME (with ALL that implies) that these are true.  And in any
case, it makes ME a happier camper.
        Regards
        Dave Mundt

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Dealing with Illegal and tacky spam

Post by DMR7 » Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
Mundt) writes:


THANKS Dave I put this address in my address book so its easy to do, I find
that if its easy I don't mind doing it
deb
deb <who's always hunting new ideas but hasn't enough time in the day for them
all>

 
 
 

Dealing with Illegal and tacky spam

Post by DMR7 » Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
(DMR74) writes:
>THANKS Dave I put this address in my address book so its easy to do, I find
>that if its easy I don't mind doing it
>deb

second note dave, the address didn't work
deb <who's always hunting new ideas but hasn't enough time in the day for them
all>
 
 
 

Dealing with Illegal and tacky spam

Post by Steve - Linux Use » Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>         Greetings and Salutations from the Dweller In the Citystate of the
> Vincible Overlord.
>         Sorry...I think I dropped into some kind of obscure shorthand
> there.
>         Let us say that somehow or another a *** spammer manages to get
> an account at AOL.
>         You might see  irksome mail/Newsgroup postings with the address:

>         You would then want to send the ENTIRE message, including headers
> (check HELP to find out how to get them in your email/news reader) to



Many of the major ISPs/content providers have their correct complaint
addresses listed at http://www.FoundCollection.com/.  I update the copy on my hard
drive every month or so, since their copy is constantly changing.

internally, and any delays in getting the spam stopped is too much
delay!  ;)

Quote:
>         Basically, you only have to replace the SPAMMER's ID on their
> email address with either the word postmaster or abuse to get to an
> authority that MIGHT do something with them.

  Usually the e-mail address is munged, (like yours and mine, although
we make ours easy for humans to figger out ;) so that won't do much
good.  More reliable is the message-ID, but even that can be munged by a
knowledgable spammer.  NNTP posting host, and path are the most reliable
ways to determine domain ID's.

 - Steve Ackman

 - - - - - - - - - - - - SPAMBOT PLAYGROUND - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


 
 
 

Dealing with Illegal and tacky spam

Post by DMR7 » Wed, 29 Apr 1998 04:00:00


ok now I have edited and re edited my address book, thanks Dave and Steve
deb <who's always hunting new ideas but hasn't enough time in the day for them
all>

 
 
 

Dealing with Illegal and tacky spam

Post by Dave Mun » Wed, 29 Apr 1998 04:00:00



        *snip*

Quote:


>Many of the major ISPs/content providers have their correct complaint
>addresses listed at http://abuse.net.  I update the copy on my hard
>drive every month or so, since their copy is constantly changing.

>internally, and any delays in getting the spam stopped is too much
>delay!  ;)

        Hear Hear!  I suppose it says something that AOL is one of the few
places that has to have a COMPLETELY different E-mail address for spam
because "the volume might overwhelm the 'aol.com' address".
        let us be kind and believe it is because they are SUCH a huge
provider of Internet Access...

Quote:

>  Usually the e-mail address is munged, (like yours and mine, although
>we make ours easy for humans to figger out ;) so that won't do much
>good.  More reliable is the message-ID, but even that can be munged by a
>knowledgable spammer.  NNTP posting host, and path are the most reliable
>ways to determine domain ID's.

        This is a good point Steve...and one that I did slide over in what
was a (perhaps too simplistic)  reply to the question.  However, part
of my basis for not discussing munged return addresses is that a BIG
chunk of the E-mails/Newsgroup postings  I have seen may have munged
the user ID, but, the spammer has not been bright enough to change the
posting host.  
        I suppose THAT says something about the general intellectual level
of the folks that hop onto the spam wagon (*grin*).

Quote:

> - Steve Ackman

> - - - - - - - - - - - - SPAMBOT PLAYGROUND - - - - - - - - - - - - - -



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