req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

Post by Laurel Shim » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Hi

Does anyone have any web site or book (inexpensive or library type)
suggestions for a beginner/hobbyist type who wants try sculpting dolls
(heads I guess?) w/ cernit, primo/premo, fimo, or something similar?

I'm a girl scout leader and am interested in learning the concept - not so
much perfect/professional techniques so I can get girl scouts interested.

Note: I thought I'd try the suggestions I found here for making boiled
beads to get some experience working w/ this material.

Thank you!

Laurel

 
 
 

req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

Post by P?rr? T?rr?n » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Does anyone have any web site or book (inexpensive or library type)
>suggestions for a beginner/hobbyist type who wants try sculpting dolls
>(heads I guess?) w/ cernit, primo/premo, fimo, or something similar?

Laurel,

I dont have what you asked, but I have many easy polyclay projects at my
site under the Xmas calendar link and also few at "instructions" section.
There are plenty of easy projects that could be done with girl scouts.

P?RR?

--
Polyclay gallery & instructions at
http://www.dlc.fi/~markkujt/index.html

 
 
 

req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

Post by Thalass » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Laurel:

You might want to look at "How to Make Clay Characters," a book by
Maureen Carlson.  It's in paperback, and I think runs somewhere in the
$18 to $25 dollar range.  You can check it out on Amazon.com.  Maureen
Carlson also has videos demonstrating her techniques, which I think are
also available from Amazon.  I don't know about the videos, but in the
Clay Characters book the figures are made completely from clay, clothes
included, so it doesn't give any guidance on how to make bodies or
costumes if you want to do a polymer clay head and cloth body.  There's
a wonderful book by Susanna Oroyan on making dolls with polymer clay
(also discusses paperclay).  It's called "Fantastic Figures," and does
include instructions on making bodies and costumes out of other
materials, but it's directed more toward people who want to make art
dolls.  It's full of photos of absolutely glorious works by quite a
number of doll artists, so it's worth looking at just to admire, even
though I imagine it's not what you'd want for your girl scouts.

If you're interested in polymer clay in general, Leslie Dierks's
"Creative Clay Jewelry" book, despite the title, includes instructions
on sculpting faces.  I think it's basically Maureen Carlson's method.
Donna Kato's book, the name of which I forget, also has a section on
sculpting doll heads.  Either of these books will give you general info
on working with the clay.

Have fun!

Thalassa

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req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

Post by Gilladi » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


<< Does anyone have any web site or book (inexpensive or library type)

Quote:
>suggestions for a beginner/hobbyist type who wants try sculpting dolls >>

You might look for Maureen Carlson's book on sculpting faces and building
dolls. It is quite good. It starts out easy and gets more complex as it goes
along. It's called "How to Make Clay Characters". I believe she may also have
some smaller booklets that are limited to more specific projects. Does anybody
know?

Gillian

 
 
 

req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

Post by DABla » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Hi,

There are many ways you could go about this, I think!  

For example, you could make small, medium, or large heads.  The larger you go
the more expensive it is, and the more likely they are to crack (though there
are solutions for that).  You can also go from very simple features (sometimes
even made from the single motion of a paintbrush handle) to very complex.  You
can also use molds (which you purchase, or create from an existing sculpture or
doll); the mold can also be "distorted" to create very different faces.  

You can color the faces with chalks, acrylic paints or washes, or not at all.
You can make and bake eyeballs to be inserted into the unbaked head, you can
paint them, cane them, or sculpt them only.  You can sculpt hair, or add fake
hair of many types, or add hats & other accessories, etc.  

Another thing to think about is the body.  Do you want to sculpt the arms and
legs too (then use a stuffed fabric body), or sculpt the whole thing?  Do you
want to hinge the body parts, use Flexiclay which is somewhat ***y, or make
the whole thing one solid piece?   You can also use other materials for the
body like pipe cleaners (which can be dressed--ask me about this if
interested), mailing-tape tubes for fingerpuppets, prepurchased bodies, hand
puppet bodies, flat bodies of clay for pins, etc.

If you have Cernit already, it has a lovely translucence which makes good skin
tones.  If not, I suggest you buy some SuperSculpey (1 lb. green and white box,
at Michaels, etc.).  It also has a nice translucence and many people use it for
sculpting.  You can probably buy it even cheaper if you try mail order (see my
e-mailed info letter, under supplies).

I'll send you a bunch of other info on sculpting by e-mail, and after you
narrow down what you might want to try, let us know and we can come up with
more specific help :-) . . .  Best of luck --it's a great, fun project!

Diane B.
P.S.  I'm not sure about boiling heads . . . the only problem might come from
the features, which stick out.  There may be some way to keep the features
face-up in the water until the clay has at least partially cured, or wrap it
sufficiently in batting, etc., to protect it???

WEBSITES:
Jimbob: sculpting with pc
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/~jimbob1/art02.htm
sculpting & armature w/ SSculpey (how to)
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
wire+ armature for sm.figure, head, hands, details (Astralos')
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/~Astralos/clay-base.htm
Portrait Pin swap --heads
        http://www2.***nex.net/~robertas/startSwaps.html
head,hands,feet,armature photos (mom)
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/#firstdoll
 *Katherine Dewey's many explanations
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/~lgdewey/index.html
 Tommie's darker sculptures & others' work
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/~tjturner
 Ro's many-artist figures
        http://www2.***nex.net/~robertas/start.html
 *faces -Creagers[face pins.jpg]
        aol://4401:13668:3051838
 *dolls & figures (many)--worldwide
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
 Marie's people
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
 *Victoria's cats scene (thumbnails)
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/~victoria/sb/inworks.htm
 *Tamila Darling, figures, xmas
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
 *Chet's Clay Page
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/~cfuhr/poly.htm
 Barcy's short character people
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
 *Z Kripke (heads, & good all around)
        http://www2.***nex.net/%7Erobertas/Z.html
 *JeanneCook:West, fancy & not
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
 *Klew button/beadshapes & tiny boxes/molded faces
        http://www2.***nex.net/%7Erobertas/klew.html
*Comport's Genie--head on bulb body
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
Comport, multi-media head/hat--Bulbette (same?)
http://www.FoundCollection.com/://www.creations...
s.com/cbk3.htm  
Dotty's covering a prescrip bottle --figure?
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
JC--hinged clay people
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/:dimensional
face slice on clothdoll, blackboards
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/#home
Samitz: wire with jewelry (bust+)
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
slices "people"
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/;
StoryPeople's almost-abstract people
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
 Lynelle's jointed figures (marionnettes?)
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/
 Beck, puppeteer
        http://www2.***nex.net/%7Erobertas/Becker.html
 Little Fellows Dollhouse Miniatures & Food
        http://www.FoundCollection.com/

 
 
 

req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

Post by Cynthia Con » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Only in this newsgroup could someone legitimately post a message about
boiling heads.  <grin>
I think I am going to set up my newsreader so that all of Diane's posts
automatically go into the "save forever" folder.

Cynthia Conn

<snip>

Quote:
> P.S.  I'm not sure about boiling heads . . . the only problem might come
from
> the features, which stick out.  There may be some way to keep the features
> face-up in the water until the clay has at least partially cured, or wrap
it
> sufficiently in batting, etc., to protect it???

 
 
 

req: Ideas for doll sculpture beginners (older girl scouts) using cernit (or similar)

Post by DABla » Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:00:00


<< I think I am going to set up my newsreader so that all of Diane's posts
automatically go into the "save forever" folder.  >>
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Gee, thanks for the vote of confidence!  :-) . . .  I'll be starting the
files soon.  

(If you're serious about saving them, choose only the ones with " Diane: " in
the subject line, or you'll get a lot of junk you don't want --I once looked

and I think there were over 500!! --that's a little embarrassing . . . .p.s.,
if you want to look up your own posts, just substitute your e-mail address
for mine in the search phrase above.)