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Post by MJBU » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00



Is anyone else having this problem?
Remember when some of us said we were having problems with the newsgroup.....
well every since then,  the numbers are all screwy.
it will say there are 20 posts and when I open the group to read it will only
10.
Numbers vary between the different groups.  I'm on AOL.    
Mj  
Billings Montana
 ~~Don't worry
         be Happy~~

 
 
 

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Post by Aurorads » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>Remember when some of us said we were having problems with the newsgroup.....
>well every since then,  the numbers are all screwy.
>it will say there are 20 posts and when I open the group to read it will only
>10.

Yes, I've been having the same problem. I just signed on and it says 20 posts,
but there is only about 7. My postas have been showing up though, so at least
that has been fixed

http://members.aol.com/auroradsgn

 
 
 

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Post by Aurorads » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


I just went to Deja News to look for an old post. I was surprised to find posts
from the last few days that I've never read, even though I have checked this
newsgroup everyday and read ALL the posts that appeared. This is really wierd.
I guess I'll start using deja news instead of going to KEYWORD: NEWSGROUPS on
AOL.

http://members.aol.com/auroradsgn

 
 
 

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Post by Samantha McPherso » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


I have used several different news servers over the past couple of years.
(You don't *have* to use the server that comes with your internet access.
Although I'm not sure AOL has this option.)  Anyway, I've discovered that
no single news server ever gets 100% of the posts made to the newsgroup.
Some are better and download a lot more from Usenet (about 80%) than others
do.  But there are always posts missing.  It's very frustrating when pieces
of a thread are not there.  And then there's all the spam....

I've gotten so discouraged with all this that I finally resorted to a news
"service" that I pay 19 dollars a year for.  I get 99.9% of posts made to
the groups and ZERO spam (just that aspect is worth the 19 bucks!).  So
when anyone comments about certain spam posts, I have no idea what they're
talking about!  
--
:-)  Sam in MS        



Quote:
> I just went to Deja News to look for an old post. I was surprised
> to find posts from the last few days that I've never read,
> even though I have checked this newsgroup everyday and read
> ALL the posts that appeared. This is really wierd.
> I guess I'll start using deja news instead of going to
> KEYWORD: NEWSGROUPS on AOL.

> http://members.aol.com/auroradsgn

 
 
 

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Post by iren » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> I've gotten so discouraged with all this that I finally resorted to a
news
> "service" that I pay 19 dollars a year for.  I get 99.9% of posts made to
> the groups and ZERO spam

Could you share the name/phone/email of this service with us?

Thanks,
Irene

 
 
 

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Post by Jann Grime » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


I am so glad to see I am not the only one. I log on through Prodigy and am
relieved to learn others not on Prodigy are having the same problem. I have
re-installed the software, ran scan disk, defraged the disk. Could not
think of anything else to do. I also have newsgroups that say I have 0 read
and 0 unread, yet if I show all notes there are tons there that I have
never seen. Even signed onto a newsgroup I had never looked at before and
it said there were no messages. Hope this gets fixed soon, I am so
frustrated with it. Jann
--
Please remove the "removethis" from my e-mail address when replying.

 
 
 

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Post by Samantha McPherso » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Sure!  It's called Zippo.Com.  I think a few people who post here use it.
Any way, you can go to their web site and find out how to become a member.
There's a more expensive service than the $19 a year one, but I don't have
any use for it and don't know what it offers.  But I get access to all the
newsgroups I like.  The ISP is <http://www.zippo.com>  

You can read the newsgroups right there on their site (very slow) or plug
their server number into your news reader (very fast!).  Hope this helps!
--
:-)  Sam in MS



Quote:

> > I've gotten so discouraged with all this that I finally resorted to a
> news
> > "service" that I pay 19 dollars a year for.  I get 99.9% of posts made
to
> > the groups and ZERO spam

> Could you share the name/phone/email of this service with us?

> Thanks,
> Irene

 
 
 

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Post by Elizabet » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Hi,
   I also subscribe to zippo for news. It's far more reliable for newsfeeds
than is Prodigy Internet. You can find out all about their various services
at:  http://super.zippo.com  and sign up on the spot with a credit card.
   I really like the NO SPAM aspect.

Elizabeth



Quote:

> > I've gotten so discouraged with all this that I finally resorted to a
> news
> > "service" that I pay 19 dollars a year for.  I get 99.9% of posts made
to
> > the groups and ZERO spam

> Could you share the name/phone/email of this service with us?

> Thanks,
> Irene

 
 
 

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Post by Leland Green.. » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Wait a sec...  (this sounds almost like a programming question and I
promised to answer those if they came up:  at least I learned "tjanting" and
"kistka" ... even if "tjintling" is not correct and who really cares about
"drizzling" anyway?:)

What do you all use as a news reader?  This Outlook Express (&/or Internet
Mail before it) have an option to "mark all messages as read when exiting
newsgroup" which is ON by default!  (Boo-hiss!)  Also, there are options to
"expire after X days", "post immediately" and "check for new messages every
X minutes".

All of these could affect what you all are describing!  Heck, you might even
download your own post, switch to another group, come back and see "0
unread" and think your server messed up.  Not to mention the fact you can
tell it to display only unread messages.

I concur that not all news-servers get all the posts all the time.  However,
many do post the message just as quickly as they can.  The server I'm using
seems to send them out almost immediately.

Look for your Options and make sure they're what you want!  If you don't
understand, just post back here and we'll all figure this out together...
deal? :)  (I can't promise to support *everyone* but I can give it a shot!
Maybe it will help make up for my more cantankerous postings: which I'm
still regretting!)

Leland Green...
 Artist and Programmer at large
 http://members.xoom.com/Leland/
 (Figure out the email address modification if you want to email me;)

Quote:

>I am so glad to see I am not the only one. I log on through Prodigy and am
>relieved to learn others not on Prodigy are having the same problem. I have
>re-installed the software, ran scan disk, defraged the disk. Could not
>think of anything else to do. I also have newsgroups that say I have 0 read
>and 0 unread, yet if I show all notes there are tons there that I have
>never seen. Even signed onto a newsgroup I had never looked at before and
>it said there were no messages. Hope this gets fixed soon, I am so
>frustrated with it. Jann
>--
>Please remove the "removethis" from my e-mail address when replying.

 
 
 

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Post by MJBU » Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>I just went to Deja News to look for an old post. I was surprised to find

posts from the last few days that I've never read, even though I have checked
this newsgroup everyday and read ALL the posts that appeared. This is really
wierd.
Quote:
>I guess I'll start using deja news instead of going to KEYWORD: NEWSGROUPS on
>AOL.

That explains my other NG's.  I had seen reply's from other people responding
to post I hadn't seen in the first place, and since I too.. read everyday,  I
was confused.
      I wish they would get there stuff together.
I'm just glad that I'm able to log on period and at least 'some' of the
message's come across.  But I guess I too will have to go read Deja News.

Mj  
Billings Montana
 ~~Don't worry
         be Happy~~

 
 
 

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Post by iren » Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> What do you all use as a news reader?  This Outlook Express (&/or
Internet
> Mail before it) have an option to "mark all messages as read when exiting
> newsgroup" which is ON by default!  (Boo-hiss!)  Also, there are options
to
> "expire after X days", "post immediately" and "check for new messages
every
> X minutes".

Leland!  Can you help?  Not to get *totally* off topic here...

I'm using Internet Mail & News.  Every post in this newsgroup  downloads
*marked as already having been read* (not other ngs I subscribe to).  I've
checked out all the above options you mentioned, all is cool there.
Another really annoying problem is that apparantly at random IMN forgets, I
guess, that I'm subscribed to this ng and I get the "headers downloaded:  X
of 100" message, many of which I've seen.  A secondary problem, I think,
since it only happens once a week and the other is constant.

I check into microsoft.public.internet.news to see if anyone's come up with
anything, but no.  I've tried deleting the .nch files and the .sub files,
and resubscribing.  It worked for a day or two, then back to downloading
all as read.  

I'm even corresponding via e-mail someone at Microsoft tech support (yeah
yeah I know, I'm not holding my breath), who claims to have never heard of
this happening, even tho a search on Deja News brings scores, maybe 100's
of posts re this problem.

A bug in the program, I suppose.  Know anything I might not have tried?

Thanks!
Irene

 
 
 

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Post by ANT K » Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Oh good, I thought it was me!!  I've been having the same trouble as you all
have on aol.  This drives me crazy!!  I hope they get this to work correctly
one of the days very soon!
Karen where the snow has finally arrived in western NY

 
 
 

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Post by Leland Green.. » Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Rose,

    Well, if it's not on your server there is nothing to do, other than
switch servers or go to Deja News (or complain to your provider).

    Are you running Internet Explorer 4?  If so, there is an option to
"reset newsgroup".  This downloads everything your server has.  I think this
should work for every problem and should show you whether, in fact, the
messages are on your server or if your "settings" missed them.  (Get to
these by right-clicking on the newsgroup name and choosing "properties" from
the pop-up menu...  The "Local Files" tab has some nice goodies.)

    If you are running an older version, or another reader, you could
probably accomplish the same thing by simply "unsubscribe" to this
newsgroup, "delete local files" and then "resubscribe".  (Deleting may be
automatic on some readers.)

    I can't support *every* package so I can't promise these will work, but
if your reader is logical it should.  :)

    As for the options I mentioned (on the Options/Read tab), I prefer:

    "Post Immediately" = checked = self explanatory
    "Mark all messages as read when exiting newsgroup" = UNchecked =
remember what I've read.
    "Download XX messages at a time" = UNchecked = download ALL new ones.
(Defaults to 300 messages so probably won't make you miss any, here, unless
it's been a while since you've read it.)

    On the Options/Advanced tab I prefer to UNcheck the "delete messages XX
days after downloading".  Then *I* decide when to delete them (usually when
I need disk space;).

    The "View menu/Current view" allows you to choose whether you're looking
at all messages or new ones.  I often turn on "all" to go back and see what
someone else posted.

    If you have a specific question I can give more specific answers....  (I
usually say the more specific the better. :)  I am still learning some of
this stuff, too.

    Oh, if anyone catches a mistake, please post! ;)

    Hope this helps,
    Leland...

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>Soooooooooooooo-----how do we fix it Leland.  I had to come to Deja news
>to see this post it wasn't on my server which is through Internet
>Explorer.  What is the best setting for the options?  Is there a generic
>disctiption that would serve all of us well? Thanks Rose Howard



>> Wait a sec...  (this sounds almost like a programming question and I
>> promised to answer those if they came up:  at least I learned "tjanting"
and
>> "kistka" ... even if "tjintling" is not correct and who really cares
about
>> "drizzling" anyway?:)

>> What do you all use as a news reader?  This Outlook Express (&/or
Internet
>> Mail before it) have an option to "mark all messages as read when exiting
>> newsgroup" which is ON by default!  (Boo-hiss!)  Also, there are options
to
>> "expire after X days", "post immediately" and "check for new messages
every
>> X minutes".

>> All of these could affect what you all are describing!  Heck, you might
even
>> download your own post, switch to another group, come back and see "0
>> unread" and think your server messed up.  Not to mention the fact you can
>> tell it to display only unread messages.

>> I concur that not all news-servers get all the posts all the time.
However,
>> many do post the message just as quickly as they can.  The server I'm
using
>> seems to send them out almost immediately.

>> Look for your Options and make sure they're what you want!  If you don't
>> understand, just post back here and we'll all figure this out together...
>> deal? :)  (I can't promise to support *everyone* but I can give it a
shot!
>> Maybe it will help make up for my more cantankerous postings: which I'm
>> still regretting!)

>> Leland Green...
>>  Artist and Programmer at large
>>  http://members.xoom.com/Leland/
>>  (Figure out the email address modification if you want to email me;)