Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by Lp1col » Thu, 24 Jul 1997 04:00:00



Has any one tried the oven bake enamel paints for ceramics and glass on a
baked poly-clay project. I am concerned about creating toxic fumes when
the two substances fuse together in the oven.

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by J J J Ja » Sat, 26 Jul 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>Has any one tried the oven bake enamel paints for ceramics and glass on a
>baked poly-clay project. I am concerned about creating toxic fumes when
>the two substances fuse together in the oven.

Sue Heaser has done extensive work with the low fire enamals and she is
still here.  Do a search through DejaNews and you will find a recent
thread that went into the subject extensively.
Jami Miller

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by LynnD » Sat, 26 Jul 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>I have not tried the oven bake paints on polyclay - I would want to
>check baking temps of the paint did not exceed baking temps for the
>clay, though. Sounds a bit dodgy!

Aaron Bros. Art Marts has a big, tempting display of oven-bake
enamels.  It needs a 300 degree oven, so it's too hot, I think.  Maybe
there are other brands available that don't need such a high temp.

LynnDel

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Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by Sue Hease » Sat, 26 Jul 1997 04:00:00




Quote:


>>Has any one tried the oven bake enamel paints for ceramics and glass on a
>>baked poly-clay project. I am concerned about creating toxic fumes when
>>the two substances fuse together in the oven.

>Sue Heaser has done extensive work with the low fire enamals and she is
>still here.  Do a search through DejaNews and you will find a recent
>thread that went into the subject extensively.

Hi all,
The enamels I use are cold enamels - they set by adding a hardener, not
by baking.

I have not tried the oven bake paints on polyclay - I would want to
check baking temps of the paint did not exceed baking temps for the
clay, though. Sounds a bit dodgy! I would try a ***y bit first in case
of fumes. It is tempting to say that there are so many paints (acrylics,
glass paints, cold enamels and varnishes) that work well on polyclay,
why try something dubious? *But* some of my best discoveries have been
when I tried unexpected things on the clay - so go for it! (And let us
know the result)

Sue
--
Sue Heaser

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by Petunia » Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:00:00


Hi All,
I just tried the oven bake enamels on poly clay last night.  Absolutely no
fumes that I noticed ( although it was rather hot here, and we did have
the fan in front of the window).  The problem with the oven bake enamels
is that they need to be baked at 300 degrees, which pretty much toasted my
clay.  However, my oven tends to run hot, so I'm going to try some more
experimenting with times & temps.  Maybe a lower temp for a longer
time....of course it didn't help my patience any when the instructions
stated to let the enamel dry for 24 hours before baking, so I'll report
some more in a few days.
-Deedee

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by CJJU » Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:00:00


<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hi all,
The enamels I use are cold enamels - they set by adding a hardener, not
by baking.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now I'm confused.  Are the cold enamels that you are talking about the
same thing as "Ceramit" Enamels (mix catalyst and color then heat to 200
degrees for one hour to get a glass like finish)?  If no heating is
required for the cold enamels you wrote about, please tell us of the
product name and where it can be bought.  

<<<<<<<I have not tried the oven bake paints on polyclay - I would want to
check baking temps of the paint did not exceed baking temps for the
clay, though. Sounds a bit dodgy! I would try a ***y bit first in case
of fumes. It is tempting to say that there are so many paints (acrylics,
glass paints, cold enamels and varnishes) that work well on polyclay,
why try something dubious? *But* some of my best discoveries have been
when I tried unexpected things on the clay - so go for it! (And let us
know the result)

Sue>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Chris

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by J J J Ja » Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
(CJJUNG) writes:
>Now I'm confused.  Are the cold enamels that you are talking about the
>same thing as "Ceramit" Enamels (mix catalyst and color then heat to 200
>degrees for one hour to get a glass like finish)?  If no heating is
>required for the cold enamels you wrote about, please tell us of the
>product name and where it can be bought.  

Chris:  Ceramit can be baked or it can be left to cure at room
temperature.  It cures faster using the oven, and if you read the
literature that accompanies the product [not necessarily the information
published in a catalog] it can be baked at normal clay temperatures.  I'll
see if I canfind my product spec sheet and post the specifics.
Jami Miller
 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by Mfhre » Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:00:00


Hello Chris.

I'll jump in and try to answer this 'cause I know Sue's on vacation.  Sue
uses cold enamel, which doesn't require any heat to set.  It may also be
called "two part resin" or somesuch.  You may be able to get it in
dollshouse shops or model railroad shops - they use it to simulate water.
Hope this helps.

Margaret Reid
in Wales

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by CJ » Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:00:00


I bought mine from Enterprise Art, but that was a few years ago,
and I dont know if they still sell it.

Hope this helps a little-

CJ

Quote:
> Now I'm confused.  Are the cold enamels that you are talking about the
> same thing as "Ceramit" Enamels (mix catalyst and color then heat to 200
> degrees for one hour to get a glass like finish)?  If no heating is
> required for the cold enamels you wrote about, please tell us of the
> product name and where it can be bought.

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by Kenneth Bingha » Fri, 01 Aug 1997 04:00:00


Can anyone give me the details on how to transfer a photo to clay (or in
this particular case Super Sculpey)?

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by Neari » Mon, 18 Aug 1997 04:00:00


Another "cute kid" story -- but I had to share with people who would
understand -- My daughter had a friend over yesterday, and they were
working on projects out of the Klutz Press book.  The friend wasn't too
familiar with what could be done, so I hauled out a box of beads and cane
slices to show her.  I also pulled a broken vessel out of the trash to show
her what I had tried to do with one project. She and my daughter asked to
keep the vessel, so, figuring that I would later wind up sweeping up
polymer shards, I agreed.

Last night, as I was putting them to bed, they presented me with my
"broken" box -- patched and reinforced, with a new lid.  They had worked on
it in secret all afternoon, and then persuaded my husband to bake it when I
took them swimming -- all without me figuring out exactly what was going
on.  (They giggled so much I knew something was happening!)

Cheers --

Nancy

 
 
 

Oven bake enamel paints on baked poly-clay

Post by JPatte » Wed, 20 Aug 1997 04:00:00


Here is another kids story.
      My 14 year old daughter had her 14 year old cousin stay over for a
few days.  One of the days I came home from work to find that the girls
were making themselves some Fimo dragons.  I gave them a few pointers,
borrowed them some slices off a couple of my canes and let them play.
      Well I must say that the dragons turned out really good! I was
amazed at how much my daughter had learned by just watching me, she very
seldom works with the clay, but she had made a foil armature, had the
proportions right, and she was intructing her cousin along the way.  What
is really fun is that my daughter entered her dragon in the county 4-H
Creative Arts competition and received a Reserve Champion placing, this
gives her the chance to take her dragon to the Minnesota State Fair, 4-H
competition.  
        She decided to give the dragon a proper setting, since her dragon
is sleeping she put together a terrarium for it to rest in.  And a card
that states the dragons name with a short story to go with.  I think the
one of the best parts is the little sign in the terrarium that says "Do not
water the Dragon"  she says this would put out the dragons
fire....giggle.....The State Fair is next weekend,  it will be fun to see
how she does there.

Jenny P