Stamp pins, glue, and TLS

Stamp pins, glue, and TLS

Post by Dzeffre » Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Hi everybody,

I am trying to make some stamp pins using the adhesive backed stamps.  I am
afraid that the adhesive will interfere with the glue I use to bond it to the
clay (Tory recommends Sobo for regular stamps), so I tried TLS as a "glue."

I wrote to Jody Bishel to ask about the TLS, and thought I would post my
experiment here too to see if anyone has any helpful advice or feedback.

"I am making postage stamp pins, and I wanted to use an adhesive backed stamp.
I painted the back with diluent b/c I was afraid the adhesive would react badly
with the clay, then changed my mind and painted on TLS.  I applied it to clay,
then painted over the entire piece with TLS.  Baked at about 200 for 8 minutes
(and it almost oven is wacko this week!)

1)  The TLS over the stamp looked very cool...kind of milky, which contrasted
with the brighter onlays I put over it.

2)  The stamp came out of the oven beautifully, but as it cooled it started to
buckle along one edge and came up from the clay.  I tried to press it down
while it cooled, but no dice.

3)  I painted the entire shebang with Flecto to try and seal the stamp down,
but it just buckled more.

4)  I also added gold powder to the edges with a dry brush before I baked the
piece...some of it drifted onto the TLS on top, so I added a very thin line of
it along the edges of the surface.  It kind of floated on the wet TLS and
looked cool.

5)  I Flecto-ed, because I was afraid that if I sanded, I would sand right
through the TLS and hit the stamp.

I love the pin, and wouldn't part with it because I always get attached to my
first muffed tries at any new thing, but I want to make about 30 pins for an
upcoming show, and need to make sure the stamp is secure, etc."

Any ideas, guys?


Stamp pins, glue, and TLS

Post by Dzeffre » Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:00:00

The saga continues:

Well, the TLS baked over the stamp with bubbles no matter how carefully I
applied it.  I didn't try Dory's idea of letting it sit for 1/2 hour.

So, I did a few experiments:  
I baked a stamp onto the clay using only the adhesive.  It came right off.

I baked a stamp on using sobo over the adhesive.  It stuck very flat, and came
off only in shreds.

I finally baked a stamp, glued with a thin layer of sobo, and Flecto-ed while
the clay was still raw.   I put additional on-lays of clay over the dried
Flecto, some adhered with TLS, and some just pressed over the Flecto.  It baked
beautifully, and I then covered everything with additional layers of Flecto.  

What remains to be seen is how the onlays will hold up, not having been stuck
to clay.  I hope that they will stick to the Flecto; if not I will try using a
dot of Zap-a-Gap on the raw onlays before I press them on.

I was also trying to dust the edges of the pin with gold powder, and was making
a real mess until I remembered a tip that some kind person (Jody?) had shared:
Mix TLS, a drop of diluent, and gold powder to make a "paint" and use that
instead.  Gorgeous!  It looks like it was melted on.

Just wanted to pass it along in case someone else in the polymer world is also
a little forgetful!

Any more advice/feedback on successful stamp pin making?



Stamp pins, glue, and TLS

Post by DBuck268 » Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Hi Donna,
  Does the actual stamp have to be part of the pin? Seems like it would be
easier to make color copies of the stamp and do a TLS transfer. Flip the
transfer over and the stamp will still read right. I'm afraid that this is one
of those questions I really can't answer.
  I've hardly done any transfers,but I liked the effect I got by making a TLS
transfer and putting that over a sheet of white clay that had silver leaf
rolled onto it. The leaf pattern appears and disappears when the piece is
tilted. It needs more experimentation-I got little cracks in the TLS transfer
when I rebaked it onto the clay sheet. Maybe I should have painted the transfer
with a thin layer of TLS before pressing it into the clay. Actually,I kinda
like the crackles!

Jody Bishel


Stamp pins, glue, and TLS

Post by Polycla » Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Another thing to try. take a stamp and moisten it with dilute. Apply it to a
raw clay, wait 15 min, then bake. Also try moistening it with dilute then appy
the TLS, wait a bit and then bake.
The logic of my statment is pased on laminating with epoxies. sometimes we
needed to 'saturate' an object with one the 'a' part of the (catalist) or a
solvent for the 'A' part, so that the epoxie would not have bubbles or



Stamp pins, glue, and TLS

Post by Dzeffre » Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:00:00

>Another thing to try. take a stamp and moisten it with dilute.

Dear Lysle, Jody and all,

Thanks for your answers...I was really in crisis mode last night!
My problem was that I wanted to use the self-adhesive stamps...they have
sticker goop on the back.
    The stamp does have to be part of the makes it sort of a
collectors item and adds dimension.  What I ended up finally coming up with at
3am was to paint the back of the stamp with Sobo, press it onto the raw clay
(which was a rainbow marbled sheet with crackled gold leaf and a #7 layer of
Premo translucent), and Flecto over the whole thing while raw.  I put the
onlays over the flecto, and baked.  After baking I put on 3 more layers of
Flecto to help strengthen the onlays.

I did use the TLS mixed with gold powder and diluent to make a paint ti gild
the edges.  It is really beautiful!

Thanks again,