Yet more new items on Yahoo!Auctions...(shameless plug)

Yet more new items on Yahoo!Auctions...(shameless plug)

Post by phr.. » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Hi all,

I've added a couple of new items to my auction booth on Yahoo!Auctions,
and more are to follow.  Let me know what you think!

http://user.auctions.yahoo.com/user/phrenabeads?

thanks,
-phrena

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

 
 
 

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Post by Tany » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Hi Phrena!  My oh my...you have wonderful creations there!  I like
them!  Keep it up!

Tanya
-----------------

Quote:
> Hi all,

> I've added a couple of new items to my auction booth on Yahoo!
Auctions,
> and more are to follow.  Let me know what you think!

> http://user.auctions.yahoo.com/user/phrenabeads?

> thanks,
> -phrena

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

--
the clay to play

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

 
 
 

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Post by phr.. » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Thank you! Thank you!

*warm fuzzy* ;)

-phrena



Quote:
> Hi Phrena!  My oh my...you have wonderful creations there!  I like
> them!  Keep it up!

> Tanya
> -----------------
> > Hi all,

> > I've added a couple of new items to my auction booth on Yahoo!
> Auctions,
> > and more are to follow.  Let me know what you think!

> > http://user.auctions.yahoo.com/user/phrenabeads?

> > thanks,
> > -phrena

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.

> --
> the clay to play

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
 
 
 

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Post by Max Hinge » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


There was a post here awhile back about some people thought
their polymer clay was really wonderful, and the writer pointed out
that she checked the auctions on Ebay and saw the beautiful to the
grossly grotesque in the nearly 400 listings under polymer clay.

Well, Not to be mean, but I've been working with clay for 3 years and
I've
never considered the majority of my pieces good enough to sell. Maybe
I'm just too *** myself because my necklaces sell literally right
off my wife's neck and earrings off her ears too! But I've never felt it
was good
enough to actually offer it for sale. I don't even have a website
displaying it!

But I've got to say, if people are actually buying that ugly polymer
clay stuff
you've got in your auctions, than I need to get myself in gear and jump
into
the online selling market! I can make stuff that looks like that with my
s***
clay in my sleep!

Sorry guys, I read posts here all the time. I've been a lurker for
almost a year,
just not big on conversation, but since I'm posting just let me say this
is a great
group. Alot of great tips, tidbits, advice and friendship.

I might never post again, but I'll be reading.

Max


Quote:

> Thank you! Thank you!

> *warm fuzzy* ;)

> -phrena



> > Hi Phrena!  My oh my...you have wonderful creations there!  I like
> > them!  Keep it up!

> > Tanya
> > -----------------
> > > Hi all,

> > > I've added a couple of new items to my auction booth on Yahoo!
> > Auctions,
> > > and more are to follow.  Let me know what you think!

> > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> > > thanks,
> > > -phrena

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > Before you buy.

> > --
> > the clay to play

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > Before you buy.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> Before you buy.

 
 
 

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Post by Jude » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
> There was a post here awhile back about some people thought
> their polymer clay was really wonderful, and the writer pointed out
> that she checked the auctions on Ebay and saw the beautiful to the
> grossly grotesque in the nearly 400 listings under polymer clay.

> Well, Not to be mean, but I've been working with clay for 3 years
and
> I've
> never considered the majority of my pieces good enough to sell.
Maybe
> I'm just too *** myself because my necklaces sell literally
right
> off my wife's neck and earrings off her ears too! But I've never
felt it
> was good
> enough to actually offer it for sale. I don't even have a website
> displaying it!

> But I've got to say, if people are actually buying that ugly polymer
> clay stuff
> you've got in your auctions, than I need to get myself in gear and
jump
> into
> the online selling market! I can make stuff that looks like that
with my
> s***
> clay in my sleep!

> Sorry guys, I read posts here all the time. I've been a lurker for
> almost a year,
> just not big on conversation, but since I'm posting just let me say
this
> is a great
> group. Alot of great tips, tidbits, advice and friendship.

> I might never post again, but I'll be reading.
> Max


Max,
I had to chuckle when reading about you selling jewelry right from
your wife's neck and ears, because I had a visual.  Have a shirt made
for her with the words "ask about my jewelry" or "my jewelry is for
sell".  Then send her to the mall 3 or 4 days a week wearing your
latest creations, teehee.  Also, have her walk the local flea markets
on the weekends.  You wouldn't even have to rent a booth.  Gee, I just
gave myself an idea!

Now get your stuff scanned onto photopoint.com so we can see it.
(Just me selfishly wanting to see all I can.)

Good luck, Judy

 
 
 

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Post by Kelly at klkbeadwork » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


***Plonk!***

 >

Quote:
> But I've got to say, if people are actually buying that ugly polymer
> clay stuff
> you've got in your auctions, than I need to get myself in gear and jump
> into
> the online selling market! I can make stuff that looks like that with my
> s***
> clay in my sleep!

 
 
 

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Post by phr.. » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Max,

I appreciate your honesty (brutal though it may be).  All I can say is,
some people do like it....I guess there is no accounting for taste!

-p



Quote:
> There was a post here awhile back about some people thought
> their polymer clay was really wonderful, and the writer pointed out
> that she checked the auctions on Ebay and saw the beautiful to the
> grossly grotesque in the nearly 400 listings under polymer clay.

> Well, Not to be mean, but I've been working with clay for 3 years and
> I've
> never considered the majority of my pieces good enough to sell. Maybe
> I'm just too *** myself because my necklaces sell literally right
> off my wife's neck and earrings off her ears too! But I've never felt
it
> was good
> enough to actually offer it for sale. I don't even have a website
> displaying it!

> But I've got to say, if people are actually buying that ugly polymer
> clay stuff
> you've got in your auctions, than I need to get myself in gear and
jump
> into
> the online selling market! I can make stuff that looks like that with
my
> s***
> clay in my sleep!

> Sorry guys, I read posts here all the time. I've been a lurker for
> almost a year,
> just not big on conversation, but since I'm posting just let me say
this
> is a great
> group. Alot of great tips, tidbits, advice and friendship.

> I might never post again, but I'll be reading.

> Max



> > Thank you! Thank you!

> > *warm fuzzy* ;)

> > -phrena



> > > Hi Phrena!  My oh my...you have wonderful creations there!  I like
> > > them!  Keep it up!

> > > Tanya
> > > -----------------
> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I've added a couple of new items to my auction booth on Yahoo!
> > > Auctions,
> > > > and more are to follow.  Let me know what you think!

> > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> > > > thanks,
> > > > -phrena

> > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > > Before you buy.

> > > --
> > > the clay to play

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > Before you buy.

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > Before you buy.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
Before you buy.
 
 
 

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Post by Diane Blac » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Hi Phrena,

(Don't worry . . . guess there are different levels of sensitivity too!!)

I especially like your turquoise, silver, etc., necklace . . . a nice
combination of colors and shapes for a multi-color necklace!

Diane B.
http://www.glassattic.com
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=107545

 
 
 

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Post by phr.. » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Max,

I was going to take the high road on this (see my previous reply) but I
took another look at your post.  I can understand if you don't LIKE what
I've done (again, I don't claim to be an artist, merely a newbie) but
was it truly necessary to call it "ugly" and put it down as no better
than a sleep-walker's craftings with scrap?  I bow to your greater
experience, and if you have constructive suggestions (such as where you
think I went wrong) I'd love to hear them.  I'd love to see your
work...I'm sure it's much better than mine!

If you've been reading posts for as long as you say, then you know that
I'm far from the first person to post about their wares...what was it
about me that finally broke the dam so that I got the pleasure of being
blasted?

-phrena

Quote:

> But I've got to say, if people are actually buying that ugly polymer
> clay stuff
> you've got in your auctions, than I need to get myself in gear and
jump
> into
> the online selling market! I can make stuff that looks like that with
my
> s***
> clay in my sleep!

> Sorry guys, I read posts here all the time. I've been a lurker for
> almost a year,
> just not big on conversation, but since I'm posting just let me say
this
> is a great
> group. Alot of great tips, tidbits, advice and friendship.

> I might never post again, but I'll be reading.

> Max



> > Thank you! Thank you!

> > *warm fuzzy* ;)

> > -phrena



> > > Hi Phrena!  My oh my...you have wonderful creations there!  I like
> > > them!  Keep it up!

> > > Tanya
> > > -----------------
> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I've added a couple of new items to my auction booth on Yahoo!
> > > Auctions,
> > > > and more are to follow.  Let me know what you think!

> > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> > > > thanks,
> > > > -phrena

> > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > > Before you buy.

> > > --
> > > the clay to play

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > Before you buy.

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > Before you buy.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
Before you buy.
 
 
 

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Post by Jeann » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


I hate to even respond to this, but I feel that I must.  I first started to
respond directly to you, but noticed that  your address had "no email at
all" it and figured that you would never see it.
  Okay, if you have been reading this newsgroup for almost a year, Max, you
must know by now that this newsgroup is for the newbie and the professional
and all in between.  And you must also know that we are a friendly,
informative and tactful group for the most part.  Please have some tact with
your next posting.  You posted right to the message where an individual had
listed her items for sale and had asked for opinions.  Opinions of which I
believe would be well received if constructive criticism or suggestions were
made.  If you could not look directly at her work and offer suggestions or
congratulations, then she was not talking to you.  Just to give a blanket
that you don't like it, is uncalled for and not tactful at all.  In other
words, your opinion is not worth much unless you give concrete suggestions
to improve.  As Ann Landers would say, "You deserve a trillion lashes with a
wet noodle!"  So go back to lurking until you learn to behave properly in
this forum.
Jeanne


Quote:
> There was a post here awhile back about some people thought
> their polymer clay was really wonderful, and the writer pointed out
> that she checked the auctions on Ebay and saw the beautiful to the
> grossly grotesque in the nearly 400 listings under polymer clay.

> Well, Not to be mean, but I've been working with clay for 3 years and
> I've
> never considered the majority of my pieces good enough to sell. Maybe
> I'm just too *** myself because my necklaces sell literally right
> off my wife's neck and earrings off her ears too! But I've never felt it
> was good
> enough to actually offer it for sale. I don't even have a website
> displaying it!

> But I've got to say, if people are actually buying that ugly polymer
> clay stuff
> you've got in your auctions, than I need to get myself in gear and jump
> into
> the online selling market! I can make stuff that looks like that with my
> s***
> clay in my sleep!

> Sorry guys, I read posts here all the time. I've been a lurker for
> almost a year,
> just not big on conversation, but since I'm posting just let me say this
> is a great
> group. Alot of great tips, tidbits, advice and friendship.

> I might never post again, but I'll be reading.

> Max



> > Thank you! Thank you!

> > *warm fuzzy* ;)

> > -phrena



> > > Hi Phrena!  My oh my...you have wonderful creations there!  I like
> > > them!  Keep it up!

> > > Tanya
> > > -----------------
> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I've added a couple of new items to my auction booth on Yahoo!
> > > Auctions,
> > > > and more are to follow.  Let me know what you think!

> > > > http://www.FoundCollection.com/

> > > > thanks,
> > > > -phrena

> > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > > Before you buy.

> > > --
> > > the clay to play

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > > Before you buy.

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > Before you buy.

 
 
 

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Post by Irish Re » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> > Well, Not to be mean,

  Oh, really?

Quote:
> > But I've got to say, if people are actually buying that ugly polymer
> > clay stuff
> > you've got in your auctions, than I need to get myself in gear and jump
> > into
> > the online selling market! I can make stuff that looks like that with my
> > s***
> > clay in my sleep!

> > Sorry guys, I read posts here all the time.

    I really doubt that you're sorry. That was cruel and uncalled for.
What part of "constructive criticism" don't you understand?

 I've been a lurker for

Quote:
> > almost a year,
> > just not big on conversation,

    I must agree with you on this one.
 
 
 

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Post by adrienne » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Let's see, how can I tactfully put my 2 cents in without sounding
mean and getting blasted from either side of the aisle.

Phrena, you've made a good start and if people like your work,
don't let anything I or anyone else says deter you from creating.
The key is do what you like and buyers will come. Considering
your other elements, your prices are reasonable. I will admit
that I personally think they are too busy and would not wear them
 for that reason. That being said, I should explain that most of
my work uses 3 colors or less and shades or tints thereof and
when I use more in a cane, I use less in beading.I guess what i'm
trying to say is that I see a need to pull the elements together
into a cohesive whole. The concept is the same as when one works
on a document for publishing...you can have many beautiful fonts
and graphics, but too much is still busy and overall not
pleasing. Not having any work up at this point I can't tell you
to take a look, but when I finally get it together, I promise to
post the addy so that all who think i'm too harsh can tear it
apart.

Varda, your work is truly wonderful...I expect that one can be
truthful without tearing a person down. Jeanne, all I can say is
amen.

Adrienne

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Post by LynnDe » Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:00:00


I don't believe, from what the overly blunt critic said, that he was
speaking specifically of Phrena's creations.  If I remember correctly,
he was referring to a large proportion of about 400 polymer clay
listings on e-Bay.

I've decided to stay way from giving "constructive criticism"
altogether, unless I am standing eyeball to eyeball with the person
who requested it.  It's so easy to be misunderstood in an e-message,
and have what one says sound much harsher than it was ever meant.
What works better than giving an opinion on what I don't like is to
explain why I like one particular item best.  That is criticism given
in a positive way.

Happily (because I was recently -- finally -- forgiven for a similar
faux pas [ in other circles]),

LynnDel