Diane's files

Diane's files

Post by DABla » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00



I have a question to pose to everyone.  

Over the past several years, I have gathered a LOT of info on most aspects of
polymer clay into Word files (about 40 of them?).  They're made up of things
I've written and bits of posts from others, etc.  Some give credit to the
authors, some not (didn't think about it at first).  (There's a lot of info
there, but there are also many tidbits of info which haven't yet been sorted
into the specific files, from when I was simply collecting interesting bits by
the month.)

ANYWAY, what I've been doing for a long time is to send anyone who asks a
question in the newsgroup the relevant file(s) instead of re-inventing the
wheel every time. That way it's easy for me, and the person gets lots more info
than I would have remembered or been willing to write.  (I usually send a copy
of my "information letter" too if I think they're new to polymer, newsgroups,
etc.)

Since the postings in rec.crafts have been rather sparse lately, it occurred to
me that I may inadvertently been adding to the problem by always answering
privately --also sometimes there *appears* to be no answer to the person's
question (in the newsgroup) if no one else responds To The Group either.  

So my question is, how do people feel about my reprinting my lo-o-ong versions
of things in the newsgroup rather than doing it privately? --if I did this, I
think I would want to try not to repeat myself (for what period of time?).  
(The other thing to think about is that I would want to reprint them the way
they are now, or as they are added to, and wouldn't want to take any time to
"fix them up" :-) . . . ).

I've also heard that for some people and computer systems, it's takes up a lot
of time or space to download long posts, so it can be a hardship.  Does anyone
know if this is largely a problem of the past, and/or are most people reading
the newsgroup offline now anyway?

I will post one of the files now in answer to a question about Future (Diane:
finishes, glazes,sealers), so you can get a feel of what it would look like.
Please respond and let me know how you feel about this (anyone who would rather
do it privately, drop me an e-mail).  THANKS!

Diane B.

 
 
 

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Post by LynnD » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00


My vote is to post here.  I've set up my system not to automatically
download anything bigger than 500k, so this one was fine.  Thanks so
much!

LynnDel

                              ~*~*~*~*~
                To e-mail me, remove the lie
(beginning with iLove and ending with Housework)

 
 
 

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Post by Cynthia Con » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Ditto.  I would greatly appreciate having the knowledge in one place rather
than scattered all over my hard drive the way mine is.

Cynthia


Quote:
> My vote is to post here.  I've set up my system not to automatically
> download anything bigger than 500k, so this one was fine.  Thanks so
> much!

> LynnDel

>                               ~*~*~*~*~
>                 To e-mail me, remove the lie
> (beginning with iLove and ending with Housework)

 
 
 

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Post by Annette Ha » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00




Hi Diane, I read your post on Future, etc. It did not take a long time
to load. I, for one do not mind long posts when it has information that
is of benefit. Even for those of us who may already know what is
offered, we must remember that there are new clayers all the time, and
they love this kind of information. I know I did when I first joined
the group. I was in 7th heaven.
 Annette

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

 
 
 

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Post by Judy Jaussau » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Personally, I LIKE your idea of posting to the newsgroup!  Bring 'em on!
Judy Jaussaud
Eastern Oregon claybum



Quote:
> So my question is, how do people feel about my reprinting my lo-o-ong
versions
> of things in the newsgroup rather than doing it privately? -

 
 
 

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Post by Nancy B. Woo » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Diane-
I have been a lucky recipient of several of your files- I loved it!  i"d love to
just download all your files...too bad I'm so computer illiterate!
If you are willing to post your hard work, I'd read them, carefully save them,
refer to them often, and promise to say a grateful prayer each time I do.
They are quite complete, which is a good thing in my book, but I know in other
groups folks have griped about length ( this is a remarkably gripe-free group,
here!)  Hey, if I can figure out how to skip a message, anyone can!
Thanks for being so generous,
Nancy
Quote:

> I have a question to pose to everyone.

> Over the past several years, I have gathered a LOT of info on most aspects of
> polymer clay into Word files (about 40 of them?).  They're made up of things
> I've written and bits of posts from others, etc.  Some give credit to the
> authors, some not (didn't think about it at first).  (There's a lot of info
> there, but there are also many tidbits of info which haven't yet been sorted
> into the specific files, from when I was simply collecting interesting bits by
> the month.)

> ANYWAY, what I've been doing for a long time is to send anyone who asks a
> question in the newsgroup the relevant file(s) instead of re-inventing the
> wheel every time. That way it's easy for me, and the person gets lots more info
> than I would have remembered or been willing to write.  (I usually send a copy
> of my "information letter" too if I think they're new to polymer, newsgroups,
> etc.)

> Since the postings in rec.crafts have been rather sparse lately, it occurred to
> me that I may inadvertently been adding to the problem by always answering
> privately --also sometimes there *appears* to be no answer to the person's
> question (in the newsgroup) if no one else responds To The Group either.

> So my question is, how do people feel about my reprinting my lo-o-ong versions
> of things in the newsgroup rather than doing it privately? --if I did this, I
> think I would want to try not to repeat myself (for what period of time?).
> (The other thing to think about is that I would want to reprint them the way
> they are now, or as they are added to, and wouldn't want to take any time to
> "fix them up" :-) . . . ).

> I've also heard that for some people and computer systems, it's takes up a lot
> of time or space to download long posts, so it can be a hardship.  Does anyone
> know if this is largely a problem of the past, and/or are most people reading
> the newsgroup offline now anyway?

> I will post one of the files now in answer to a question about Future (Diane:
> finishes, glazes,sealers), so you can get a feel of what it would look like.
> Please respond and let me know how you feel about this (anyone who would rather
> do it privately, drop me an e-mail).  THANKS!

> Diane B.

 
 
 

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Post by Byrd Tetzla » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00


diane,

your idea is very thoughtful.  sadly, there are those of us who are
working with systems that do limit dramtically the amount we can see.  I
know, I'm one of them :-\

-Byrd
http://www.3wave.com/chhome/cha/byrd.html
Member NPCG

 
 
 

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Post by DABla » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>your idea is very thoughtful.  sadly, there are those of us who are
>working with systems that do limit dramtically the amount we can see.  I
>know, I'm one of them :-\

Hi Byrd,

Actually, one of the main benefits I see to doing this is so that all the files
will be available in the archives at DejaNews.  (I will begin all the subject
lines with "Diane:" so that they'll be easy to find.)  Would this be any better
for you?  Can you see a longer post if you're at a place like DejaNews?  Do you
know what your limit is (I might be able to break some of them up some)?

Diane

 
 
 

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Post by P?rr? T?rr?n » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>So my question is, how do people feel about my reprinting my lo-o-ong
versions
>of things in the newsgroup rather than doing it privately? --if I did
this, I
>think I would want to try not to repeat myself (for what period of time?).
>(The other thing to think about is that I would want to reprint them the
way
>they are now, or as they are added to, and wouldn't want to take any time
to
>"fix them up" :-) . . . ).

Diane and other members of this *** family,

I vote for reprinting in here. Your files are so much better than mine, you
seem to have some organizing skills that I obviously do not have. If you
want to share your collections I sure will apprisiate it a lot. And
although some of us have been around a while you have so many tips in your
files that I believe we too can pick some new ideas from them.

Just IMHO...

P?RR?

Ps. Thank you all for your encouragement and nice words about my baby. She
has name now; Taika, which means "magic" or "miracle". Im hoping that I
soon will be able to clay and write more. You all have been in my thoughts
allot. Love you !

--
Polyclay gallery & instructions at
http://www.FoundCollection.com/~markkujt/index.html

 
 
 

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Post by Lucille J. Schac » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00


If the files are too long for some people, you could send them in 2
parts. Like "Title part one" and  "Title part two".  I can receive any
lenth.

Lucille
http://creativeside.com/cache/eggersu/artworks_by_lucille.htm  

 
 
 

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Post by JD Enterprise » Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Hi!!  I vote to post!!  I love reviewing the long instructional posts & am
sure there are some I haven't seen, & some I haven't saved yet!  As for any
problem with length, that can be taken care of in the Message Rules Option,
but as far as I'm concerned, the more (knowledge), the merrier!
Dawn
 
 
 

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Post by DABla » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Hi group. . . whew!  back online,

My computer has been dead for almost all of the last week  :-b.  It revived
enough for me to see a few posts, then keeled over again.  (Gateway will be
sending us a new part ASAP --hope that's the problem).  But if anyone has
trouble reaching me for a few days, maybe they'll see this warning.

I have had a bit of time to think about what to do about my "files," and have
pretty much decided to bite the bullet and create my own website.  The DH
computer guru says it's not really too much trouble to add text only to a
website, so that's probably what I'll do.  I have some concerns about this
because I'm not sure if we'll be keeping AOL, and someone had warned about
"wishing she'd created her info, or links, or something, another way which
would have made transferring them to another server much easier."  Anyone
remember what that was about? or have any other caveats?

I will still post the files to rec.crafts.polymer-clay, one at a time, over
some time.  That would mean they'd be *somewhere* in perpetuity :-) and
wouldn't depend on anything that might happen to me, etc.  I'm still a little
concerned that the info isn't complete (the improver-gene never rests . . . ),
and that not all the bits of info are attributed, but I hope that stating that
at the beginning will be okay. I'll try to post the next (second) one soon.

Diane B.
P.S.  The main reason I haven't started on a website before is because I know
I'll get too interested!! --and acres of time will go poof.  I'm finally
getting to some other things in my life that have been wa-a-ay behind, and this
will probably sidetrack those things too.  I also have a bunch of stuff (photos
and instructions) that I could put on a website--most related to polymer clay,
but some not--and I know all that will be calling, cal-l-l-l-ing me too.  Oh
well, c'est la vie. . . should be fun anyway!

 
 
 

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Post by Nancy B. Woo » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Oh Boy!!  Whoopieee!!!  Diane's going to make a web site!!  That's one prayer
answered!!
Thanks so much Diane, for being willing to share and put so much time into this.
nancy (doing virtual cartwheels, since I can't do real ones)
Quote:

> Hi group. . . whew!  back online,

> My computer has been dead for almost all of the last week  :-b.  It revived
> enough for me to see a few posts, then keeled over again.  (Gateway will be
> sending us a new part ASAP --hope that's the problem).  But if anyone has
> trouble reaching me for a few days, maybe they'll see this warning.

> I have had a bit of time to think about what to do about my "files," and have
> pretty much decided to bite the bullet and create my own website.  The DH
> computer guru says it's not really too much trouble to add text only to a
> website, so that's probably what I'll do.  I have some concerns about this
> because I'm not sure if we'll be keeping AOL, and someone had warned about
> "wishing she'd created her info, or links, or something, another way which
> would have made transferring them to another server much easier."  Anyone
> remember what that was about? or have any other caveats?

> I will still post the files to rec.crafts.polymer-clay, one at a time, over
> some time.  That would mean they'd be *somewhere* in perpetuity :-) and
> wouldn't depend on anything that might happen to me, etc.  I'm still a little
> concerned that the info isn't complete (the improver-gene never rests . . . ),
> and that not all the bits of info are attributed, but I hope that stating that
> at the beginning will be okay. I'll try to post the next (second) one soon.

> Diane B.
> P.S.  The main reason I haven't started on a website before is because I know
> I'll get too interested!! --and acres of time will go poof.  I'm finally
> getting to some other things in my life that have been wa-a-ay behind, and this
> will probably sidetrack those things too.  I also have a bunch of stuff (photos
> and instructions) that I could put on a website--most related to polymer clay,
> but some not--and I know all that will be calling, cal-l-l-l-ing me too.  Oh
> well, c'est la vie. . . should be fun anyway!

 
 
 

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Post by scott & iren » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


DABlack wrote

Quote:
>The main reason I haven't started on a website before is because I know
>I'll get too interested!! --and acres of time will go poof.

It's good you realize this basic fact of web site creation.  I worked on
mine during the slow winter months.  Another basic fact is that you can
tinker with it forever.  You're never quite *done*...

But thanks for sharing all your accumulated info.  :)

Irene in western NC
to email, remove first x from address
--
http://www.pobox.com/~good.night.irene

 
 
 

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Post by Judi Maddiga » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>I have had a bit of time to think about what to do about my "files," and
have
>pretty much decided to bite the bullet and create my own website.

Diane, all I can say is, "It's about time!" :D

Quote:
>I have some concerns about this
>because I'm not sure if we'll be keeping AOL, and someone had warned about
>"wishing she'd created her info, or links, or something, another way which
>would have made transferring them to another server much easier."  Anyone
>remember what that was about?

Oh yes, that was probably me. On my first site, I made all the links
absolute rather than relative. When it came time to move it to my domain
server, there were hundreds of navigational links to change. I will spare
everyone a discussion of HTML on this newsgroup, but the invitation is
always open for you (or others) to drop by the Site Crafters forum,
http://www.delphi.com/sitecrafters/messages , to discuss it in detail. We
are all clay artists there and all we do is help each other with sites
related to polymer clay. Beginners are welcome.

And about that site-to-be of yours, Diane... Web design is an E ticket.
Buckle up and enjoy the ride. :)

Judi Maddigan
http://www.angelslanding.com/pushmolds/