Star Cane Help!?!?

Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by Sharon S » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Goodness! I'm not sure if it's safe in here
anymore!

Question! Can anyone help with some good
directions
for making a star cane???  I've been trying to
make the
star cane, typical white star on black background,
forever
and I always mutilate it to death in the reduction
process.

I've got so many piles of grey clay now, I'll
never
run out of s***clay for my bead cores!!  Hmmmm -

(maybe I can make that Max guy a lock for his
mouth
out of my scrap, in my sleep!!) Apologies! Cheap
shot I know, but the nerve of some people just
amazes me!

Is there a trick? Maybe I'm not getting the black
packed around
the star well enough? I'm surrounding a white
circle, with the white
triangles, and then filling in with black, trying
to keep the cane round.

I started with smal amounts of clay, and smashed
the star, so I went
on the trying to make a really big cane, like coke
can size around,
and I still managed to mash the star! Must admit,
I'm feeling like
an idiot!! This has to be a simple cane to make,
right?!?

Thanks,
Sharon

PS - I've been taking pics of my polymer stuff,
and I'm hoping
to get a page or two up this weekend so everyone
can see! I don't
think I have anything really impressive, but don't
mind sharing anyway!

 
 
 

Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by Irish Re » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00


  Hi Sharon,

   I've had trouble with a star cane myself. You have to put triangles
between each point that align with the outside point. Then cover the
whole thing with a sheet of the outside color. Then let it rest awhile,
even overnight.
   When you reduce the cane, keep rotating it and try applying the
pressure to the triangles in between the points, then use lighter
pressure on the points themselves.

   Hope this helps,

   Kim

Quote:

> Goodness! I'm not sure if it's safe in here
> anymore!

> Question! Can anyone help with some good
> directions
> for making a star cane???  I've been trying to
> make the
> star cane, typical white star on black background,
> forever
> and I always mutilate it to death in the reduction
> process.

> I've got so many piles of grey clay now, I'll
> never
> run out of s***clay for my bead cores!!  Hmmmm -

> (maybe I can make that Max guy a lock for his
> mouth
> out of my scrap, in my sleep!!) Apologies! Cheap
> shot I know, but the nerve of some people just
> amazes me!

> Is there a trick? Maybe I'm not getting the black
> packed around
> the star well enough? I'm surrounding a white
> circle, with the white
> triangles, and then filling in with black, trying
> to keep the cane round.

> I started with smal amounts of clay, and smashed
> the star, so I went
> on the trying to make a really big cane, like coke
> can size around,
> and I still managed to mash the star! Must admit,
> I'm feeling like
> an idiot!! This has to be a simple cane to make,
> right?!?

> Thanks,
> Sharon

> PS - I've been taking pics of my polymer stuff,
> and I'm hoping
> to get a page or two up this weekend so everyone
> can see! I don't
> think I have anything really impressive, but don't
> mind sharing anyway!


 
 
 

Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by Sharon S » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Thank you Kim!

I'll be trying to make another one this weekend!
If it comes out well, I'll get a pic of it and post it.

I guess even fimo needs a chance to stiffen back
up before reduction, and maybe that's part of  my
problem - not letting it rest long enough. Hm!

Sharon

Quote:

>   Hi Sharon,

>    I've had trouble with a star cane myself. You have to put triangles
> between each point that align with the outside point. Then cover the
> whole thing with a sheet of the outside color. Then let it rest awhile,
> even overnight.
>    When you reduce the cane, keep rotating it and try applying the
> pressure to the triangles in between the points, then use lighter
> pressure on the points themselves.

>    Hope this helps,

>    Kim


> > Goodness! I'm not sure if it's safe in here
> > anymore!

> > Question! Can anyone help with some good
> > directions
> > for making a star cane???  I've been trying to
> > make the
> > star cane, typical white star on black background,
> > forever
> > and I always mutilate it to death in the reduction
> > process.

> > I've got so many piles of grey clay now, I'll
> > never
> > run out of s***clay for my bead cores!!  Hmmmm -

> > (maybe I can make that Max guy a lock for his
> > mouth
> > out of my scrap, in my sleep!!) Apologies! Cheap
> > shot I know, but the nerve of some people just
> > amazes me!

> > Is there a trick? Maybe I'm not getting the black
> > packed around
> > the star well enough? I'm surrounding a white
> > circle, with the white
> > triangles, and then filling in with black, trying
> > to keep the cane round.

> > I started with smal amounts of clay, and smashed
> > the star, so I went
> > on the trying to make a really big cane, like coke
> > can size around,
> > and I still managed to mash the star! Must admit,
> > I'm feeling like
> > an idiot!! This has to be a simple cane to make,
> > right?!?

> > Thanks,
> > Sharon

> > PS - I've been taking pics of my polymer stuff,
> > and I'm hoping
> > to get a page or two up this weekend so everyone
> > can see! I don't
> > think I have anything really impressive, but don't
> > mind sharing anyway!

 
 
 

Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by irene and scot » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
>    I've had trouble with a star cane myself.

Of course, then there is cookie-cutter***.

Flatten two contrasting colors of polymer clay into wads not quite as tall
as your star-shaped cookie cutter.  Use the cutter to cut the center out of
each, then swap the colors of clay.  Two canes at once.  Cut the outside
edges of the background color so that you have a squared-off block to reduce
with a brayer.

You might need to use a mold release to easily remove the clay from the
cutter.  If you do, be sure to remove the mold release from the clay (wash
it off?) so it won't release from the other clay that you insert it into.

Hope this helps,
Irene in western NC
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Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by Sjpolycl » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Is the problem that the points of the star are getting blunted? ( If so, you
need to wrap more clay around the outside---should be at least  1/4 inch from
tip of point to outside edge of cane circle, or even more)

Or is it that they are moving too much so that the points are no longer equal
distances from each other, but sort of swirling around where they shouldn't be?

( If so, its the reduction itself...when reducing, turn your cane over so the
right end is now on the left as it lies horizontally--that way instead of
drifting all in one direction it drifts first one way and then back again to
where it started...)
I hope that isn't too confusing.
I have more stuff on reduction at the following page:
www.polyclay.com/reduce.htm
hope this helps!

Sarajane Helm

Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery
www.polyclay.com

 
 
 

Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by Jean/P » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00




Quote:

> >    I've had trouble with a star cane myself.

> Of course, then there is cookie-cutter***.

> Use the cutter to cut the center out of
> each, then swap the colors of clay.  Two canes at once> Hope this
helps,
> Irene in western NC
>      ----------
> remove first x to email me
> www.good-night-irene.com

I always had a problem with stuffing the star back into the opening
till I saw Donna Kato do one on Carol Duvall.  She cut the background
color from the end of one point to the outside and separated the
opening enough to insert the star.  It works so much better and the
separation reconnects in the reduction process!

Another thing could be that there's not enough background color, but I
suspect letting the cane rest before reducing is what's needed.  You
can put the cane in the fridge for a little while to cool down if you
just can't wait for it to rest! Then, try to keep the pressure even by
turning and pressing.  Take your time and try not to rush things.
--
Jean/PA
http://www.FoundCollection.com/

Sent via Deja.com http://www.FoundCollection.com/
Before you buy.

 
 
 

Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by Sharon S » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Hi Sarahjane,

My problem has been both - points going round
and moving where they aren't supposed to be! So it
looks like I need to add more clay and reduce better.
Should I be trying to make the cane square, instead
of round?

I printed your post on the few others above it to
take home with me for when I practice again this
weekend!

Thank you all for your tips and advice!

Sharon

Quote:

> Is the problem that the points of the star are getting blunted? ( If so, you
> need to wrap more clay around the outside---should be at least  1/4 inch from
> tip of point to outside edge of cane circle, or even more)

> Or is it that they are moving too much so that the points are no longer equal
> distances from each other, but sort of swirling around where they shouldn't be?

> ( If so, its the reduction itself...when reducing, turn your cane over so the
> right end is now on the left as it lies horizontally--that way instead of
> drifting all in one direction it drifts first one way and then back again to
> where it started...)
> I hope that isn't too confusing.
> I have more stuff on reduction at the following page:
> www.polyclay.com/reduce.htm
> hope this helps!

> Sarajane Helm

> Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery
> www.polyclay.com

 
 
 

Star Cane Help!?!?

Post by BethCurra » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00


I wonder what kind of clay you're using.  I just loooove Fimo Soft because
it reduces so evenly.  When I'm trying for the best possible reduction, I
start with a relatively small cane, say 2 packages' worth, have the cane at
least 4 times as tall as it is wide, place a tiny strip of contrasting clay
straight down one side, and I reduce use a technique posted here a long time
ago called the "cow milking method" whereby you reduce the cane initially by
pressing in from the sides, flipping often, always taking care to keep that
tiny strip straight.  then when it gets long enough you continue by holding
it up by one end and lightly grip-sliding your other hand down it, sort of
like what us city folk think milking a cow would be like.  Sort of a
pulling-stretching motion.  Again, you flip the cane frequently and keep
that little strip straight. - Beth Curran
------------------
She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you
would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot.
- Following the Equator; Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar


Quote:
> Goodness! I'm not sure if it's safe in here
> anymore!

> Question! Can anyone help with some good
> directions
> for making a star cane???  I've been trying to
> make the
> star cane, typical white star on black background,
> forever
> and I always mutilate it to death in the reduction
> process.

> I've got so many piles of grey clay now, I'll
> never
> run out of s***clay for my bead cores!!  Hmmmm -

> (maybe I can make that Max guy a lock for his
> mouth
> out of my scrap, in my sleep!!) Apologies! Cheap
> shot I know, but the nerve of some people just
> amazes me!

> Is there a trick? Maybe I'm not getting the black
> packed around
> the star well enough? I'm surrounding a white
> circle, with the white
> triangles, and then filling in with black, trying
> to keep the cane round.

> I started with smal amounts of clay, and smashed
> the star, so I went
> on the trying to make a really big cane, like coke
> can size around,
> and I still managed to mash the star! Must admit,
> I'm feeling like
> an idiot!! This has to be a simple cane to make,
> right?!?

> Thanks,
> Sharon

> PS - I've been taking pics of my polymer stuff,
> and I'm hoping
> to get a page or two up this weekend so everyone
> can see! I don't
> think I have anything really impressive, but don't
> mind sharing anyway!