Need Info on "The Book"

Need Info on "The Book"

Post by SanFrancisco » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00



I've been on AOL for 3 days, found this group yesterday, and have apparently
missed the original posting about the "new book" that so many posts are about
right now.

Can someone please give me the title and author's name of the book??
Thanks so much!
Carol in San Jose CA
SBPCG member

 
 
 

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Post by WebBas » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


POLYMER CLAY TIPS & SECRETS EVERY CRAFTER SHOULD KNOW!

by Eugene Boone

M-PRO ONLINE BOOKSTORE:

http://www.m-pro.demon.co.uk/bookstore.html

Did you see the comment about the troll? How upset she was when he responded in
kind? Oh my! I just can't believe what I'm reading from nice Christian people
these days! Poor guy! He was also called other names, it seems, and one guy
even called him a drug user?!! Isn't this over the top?!! Do civilized people
behave this way? I thought of complaining about some of their comments. He has
a right to Freedom of speech, too - and it's the eve of the 4th of July?!! Did
we all forget that? We could send our fellow human beings our best and not our
insults, or are we just too big for that? I feel a little smaller today. I see
how people really treat each other, and it is not a pretty sight.  He's a
fellow polymer clay artist - where is our kinship, our goodwill? Did we always
have to respond in kind or with our own swords drawn? Aren't we civilized
enough to care about our fellow human beings. Why does this seem like such a
foreign concept to you all? He extended apologies and good will and he got
called more names! I saw the postings. Drug user, troll, etc. Everyone seems to
be saying he made this up, but the postings are there. Ease up people - it's
the 4th!

 
 
 

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Post by Nikki Lowso » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


I would like to set the record straight on the *** bit.
I did not say he was a drug user, I enquired if he was, simply because of
the content of HIS messages and the fact that he was unprepared to listen to
anything that we said to him without abusing us in return.
Also I am a female not a "guy"
Quote:

>POLYMER CLAY TIPS & SECRETS EVERY CRAFTER SHOULD KNOW!

>by Eugene Boone

>M-PRO ONLINE BOOKSTORE:

>http://www.FoundCollection.com/

>Did you see the comment about the troll? How upset she was when he
responded in
>kind? Oh my! I just can't believe what I'm reading from nice Christian
people
>these days! Poor guy! He was also called other names, it seems, and one guy
>even called him a drug user?!! Isn't this over the top?!! Do civilized
people
>behave this way? I thought of complaining about some of their comments. He
has
>a right to Freedom of speech, too - and it's the eve of the 4th of July?!!
Did
>we all forget that? We could send our fellow human beings our best and not
our
>insults, or are we just too big for that? I feel a little smaller today. I
see
>how people really treat each other, and it is not a pretty sight.  He's a
>fellow polymer clay artist - where is our kinship, our goodwill? Did we
always
>have to respond in kind or with our own swords drawn? Aren't we civilized
>enough to care about our fellow human beings. Why does this seem like such
a
>foreign concept to you all? He extended apologies and good will and he got
>called more names! I saw the postings. Drug user, troll, etc. Everyone
seems to
>be saying he made this up, but the postings are there. Ease up people -
it's
>the 4th!

 
 
 

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Post by Tany » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


I agree with you there.  The poor guy has already apologized!  Why do
we like to put more salt in his wound and rub it in?  He's new to
us...can't we give him a chance?  When i first read the thread,  I
admit i was skeptical but after he has apologized and everything, i
don't think there's any reason for us not to welcome him into this
group.  Ok, ok i know some were upset and your feelings need to be
heard too but this is too much already.  I thought this group is
accomodating and friendly and helpful.  Now i can see that I'm
mistaken.  Before, I used to visit this group and check the postings
every minute of every day, now, i don't think i like listening to all
these gripes and angry sentiments.  Forgive me, but this is all too
much.  Why don't we just welcome him into our circle.  We don't even
know him ...and yet we have judged him already.  Come on friends, we
are all good people...can we for a moment swallow our pride and be the
nice and helpful and friendly people that we are?  Please, enough of
this already.

My humble self,
Tanya

Quote:

> Did you see the comment about the troll? How upset she was when he
responded in
> kind? Oh my! I just can't believe what I'm reading from nice
Christian people
> these days! Poor guy! He was also called other names, it seems, and
one guy
> even called him a drug user?!! Isn't this over the top?!! Do
civilized people
> behave this way? I thought of complaining about some of their
comments. He has
> a right to Freedom of speech, too - and it's the eve of the 4th of
July?!! Did
> we all forget that? We could send our fellow human beings our best
and not our
> insults, or are we just too big for that? I feel a little smaller
today. I see
> how people really treat each other, and it is not a pretty sight.
He's a
> fellow polymer clay artist - where is our kinship, our goodwill? Did
we always
> have to respond in kind or with our own swords drawn? Aren't we
civilized
> enough to care about our fellow human beings. Why does this seem like
such a
> foreign concept to you all? He extended apologies and good will and
he got
> called more names! I saw the postings. Drug user, troll, etc.
Everyone seems to
> be saying he made this up, but the postings are there. Ease up
people - it's
> the 4th!

--
the clay to play

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

 
 
 

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Post by WebBas » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Tsk! Tsk! I don't want you to start in on me like you all did him. OK? I am an
outsider here, stumbled onto your group and was shocked! I see that you will
defend whatever you say? Would you want someone to say the things to your
children that you have said to Mr. Boone today and in previous days? I wouldn't
repeat some of what was said in front of my kids. I feel sympathy for him,
probably he hasn't been a part of such a group before, already felt like an
outsider and was bomboarded by these messages when he wasn't sure of the exact
way to behave in such a group. Make sense, so far? I hope so. He seems like a
nice guy. No one seemed to be listening when he spoke. For instance, he
admitted he did not know his way around the group, no one came forth to help
before the messages started and no one came forth once the messages started.
Several of your members did call him names and make comments that can mean
exactly what they imply. A person on ***, for instance, IS a drug user! We
have all heard the kind of twisted logic that says otherwise. If you ask
someone if they are on ***, for example, you are implying that the person is
a drug user? You cannot be one without the other. See? I'm an English teacher
and parttime crafter myself, so I tend to take things quite literally. We
expect others to say "exactly" what they mean, so we must all be accountable
for what we say. Calling a person a Troll is not nice. Besides,  I have a
lovely Troll collection from Norway! Please don't belittle human beings this
way. I still stand by my sentiment: It's the 4th of July! Something to think
about this 4th is how we treat others and if we would want the same treatment
in kind. We wouldn't want our loved one treated so poorly, so why do we treated
the loved ones of others this way?
Please do not start in on me the way you have on Mr. Boone. Please! I apolgize
for calling the lady a guy, she seemed put out by this. Think about it. Mr.
Boone was called far worse!

Leslie

PS - Please, please do not send me hostile messages or anything to my email
address! I do not want to be treated this way, I don't think anyone does!

 
 
 

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Post by Kelly at klkbeadwork » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Just changing your name on your AOL email account isn't
nice, either.

Your writing style remains the same, even when the "name"
(or lack of one) changes.

Quote:

> Tsk! Tsk! I don't want you to start in on me like you all did him. OK? I am an
> outsider here, stumbled onto your group and was shocked! I see that you will
> defend whatever you say? Would you want someone to say the things to your
> children that you have said to Mr. Boone today and in previous days? I wouldn't
> repeat some of what was said in front of my kids. I feel sympathy for him,
> probably he hasn't been a part of such a group before, already felt like an
> outsider and was bomboarded by these messages when he wasn't sure of the exact
> way to behave in such a group. Make sense, so far? I hope so. He seems like a
> nice guy. No one seemed to be listening when he spoke. For instance, he
> admitted he did not know his way around the group, no one came forth to help
> before the messages started and no one came forth once the messages started.
> Several of your members did call him names and make comments that can mean
> exactly what they imply. A person on ***, for instance, IS a drug user! We
> have all heard the kind of twisted logic that says otherwise. If you ask
> someone if they are on ***, for example, you are implying that the person is
> a drug user? You cannot be one without the other. See? I'm an English teacher
> and parttime crafter myself, so I tend to take things quite literally. We
> expect others to say "exactly" what they mean, so we must all be accountable
> for what we say. Calling a person a Troll is not nice. Besides,  I have a
> lovely Troll collection from Norway! Please don't belittle human beings this
> way. I still stand by my sentiment: It's the 4th of July! Something to think
> about this 4th is how we treat others and if we would want the same treatment
> in kind. We wouldn't want our loved one treated so poorly, so why do we treated
> the loved ones of others this way?
> Please do not start in on me the way you have on Mr. Boone. Please! I apolgize
> for calling the lady a guy, she seemed put out by this. Think about it. Mr.
> Boone was called far worse!

> Leslie

> PS - Please, please do not send me hostile messages or anything to my email
> address! I do not want to be treated this way, I don't think anyone does!

--
Kelly

http://www.FoundCollection.com/

 
 
 

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Post by Nikki Lowso » Tue, 04 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Obviously the concept of a question is beyond you. If you read the posts
previous to mine you will find several posts by Mr Boone which verged on
insanity.  Where I come from a question such as mine is treated in a more
lighthearted fashion.

Quote:

>Tsk! Tsk! I don't want you to start in on me like you all did him. OK? I am
an
>outsider here, stumbled onto your group and was shocked! I see that you
will
>defend whatever you say? Would you want someone to say the things to your
>children that you have said to Mr. Boone today and in previous days? I
wouldn't
>repeat some of what was said in front of my kids. I feel sympathy for him,
>probably he hasn't been a part of such a group before, already felt like an
>outsider and was bomboarded by these messages when he wasn't sure of the
exact
>way to behave in such a group. Make sense, so far? I hope so. He seems like
a
>nice guy. No one seemed to be listening when he spoke. For instance, he
>admitted he did not know his way around the group, no one came forth to
help
>before the messages started and no one came forth once the messages
started.
>Several of your members did call him names and make comments that can mean
>exactly what they imply. A person on ***, for instance, IS a drug user!
We
>have all heard the kind of twisted logic that says otherwise. If you ask
>someone if they are on ***, for example, you are implying that the person
is
>a drug user? You cannot be one without the other. See? I'm an English
teacher
>and parttime crafter myself, so I tend to take things quite literally. We
>expect others to say "exactly" what they mean, so we must all be
accountable
>for what we say. Calling a person a Troll is not nice. Besides,  I have a
>lovely Troll collection from Norway! Please don't belittle human beings
this
>way. I still stand by my sentiment: It's the 4th of July! Something to
think
>about this 4th is how we treat others and if we would want the same
treatment
>in kind. We wouldn't want our loved one treated so poorly, so why do we
treated
>the loved ones of others this way?
>Please do not start in on me the way you have on Mr. Boone. Please! I
apolgize
>for calling the lady a guy, she seemed put out by this. Think about it. Mr.
>Boone was called far worse!

>Leslie

>PS - Please, please do not send me hostile messages or anything to my email
>address! I do not want to be treated this way, I don't think anyone does!

 
 
 

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Post by Kathy Alsberr » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Ditto - I was just gonna say that

--

Kathy

"Come to the edge," he said. They said, "We are afraid."
"Come to the edge," he said. They came.
He pushed them, And they flew. - Guillaume Apallinaire

 
 
 

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Post by emma » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Pure and simple - post a link showing PICTURES of this guys work.
strange that he hasn't offered to do that himself isn't it???

He could stop all this right NOW if he showed us pictures of his work.

I am sorry if it seems like I am showing the guy no respect - but hey
there is a reason for that - he hasn't earned my respect yet.

All he has to do is SHOW us his work.
Is that really asking so much??? why does he ignore this request and
then *** on like a child about how *** we are
all that is getting to him is that we used our brains and questioned
something that right now STILL looks like a scam.

And getting his friends to post in his defence is pretty lame also.

who is with me on this one guys
do we want to see pictures of his work or what???

BTW - I am not a christian - but none of us here have done nything
wrong to this guy - he brought it on himself.

why doesn't he show the picture of HIS work or leave?
it is getting pathetic the way he will not valadate his credentials.
I can't see any of the big names in PC ever expecting someone to buy
their book / videos without showing examples can you???
Emma


Quote:

>Did you see the comment about the troll? How upset she was when he responded in
>kind? Oh my! I just can't believe what I'm reading from nice Christian people
>these days! Poor guy! He was also called other names, it

 
 
 

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Post by Narigo » Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
(WebBase1) writes:
>Calling a person a Troll is not nice. Besides,  I have a
>lovely Troll collection from Norway!

Do you know what an internet troll is, Leslie? Someone who is not a member of a
group, chat  or forum, but who posts on only one topic, often only one time,
and in order to create or continue a disagreement. It's a word with a
definition, not simply a slur. It's a person who trolls for trouble.

One more thing (not just to you, Leslie), it's really helpful when accusing a
member of a group or an entire group of people of an action to quote that part
of the post you're referring to. For instance, if you refer to name calling,
quote the exact sentence in which the name calling occurred and attribute it to
a screen name. That prevents us from having to read through accusations that
refer to insults that didn't really occur. Precision is so helpful in these
cases of hurt feelings.

Carol

 
 
 

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Post by KleeB » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>He seems like a
>nice guy.

Actually, he does not, which caused most of the problems.
 
 
 

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Post by CompuBoo » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Strange, you people seem to think YOU'RE NICE PEOPLE! LOL Mr. Boone is no
longer defending himself, and you're still belittling him. Nice group!
Tiffani

Strange you all seem to FEEL YOU'RE NICE PEOPLE?!! LOL
Subject: Re: Need Info on "The Book"

Date: 07/05/2000 1:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time

Quote:
>He seems like a
>nice guy.

Actually, he does not, which caused most of the problems.
 
 
 

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Post by emma » Thu, 06 Jul 2000 04:00:00


What would we rather see? threads like this come up from time to time
- which may be uncomfortable or a thread full of screaming adverts for
hazily defined products?
If we don't react the way we do then the con artists would soon be
here - even if they are not already.

Tiffini - I am a nice person, very nice actually I am just also a
curious person and an intelligent person and caring enough t ask
questions so that I may make sure that people who may be a little less
cynical that I do not loose out.
And I would not worry about Mr Boone defending himself too much, he
seems to defend himself way more than he needs, anyway I have a
feeling he is still close!
Emma

Quote:
>Strange, you people seem to think YOU'RE NICE PEOPLE! LOL Mr. Boone is no
>longer defending himself, and you're still belittling him. Nice group!
>Tiffani