Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Post by Apurbva Chandra Senr » Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:06:51



I've gotten a couple of quills that were being sold as novelty items
with an inkwell that I bought at a pen store. The thing is, I can't
get them to work very well. The fountain pen ink I use tends to just
rush out all at once. Anyone have any pointers? Thanks.
 
 
 

Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Post by Jill » Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:40:49



Quote:
> I've gotten a couple of quills that were being sold as novelty items
> with an inkwell that I bought at a pen store. The thing is, I can't
> get them to work very well. The fountain pen ink I use tends to just
> rush out all at once. Anyone have any pointers? Thanks.

It could be that if the pen was prepared only as a novelty item, and
not as a working quill, it isn't cut well enough to actually be used
for writing.

Also, modern fountain pen ink is designed to flow without clogging up
modern fountain pens, so it probably is too runny to use with a quill.
 I'm sure one of our resident calligraphers would be more than happy
to recommend a good ink to use with quill pens!

Some websites to peruse:

http://www.regia.org/quill2.htm (from the Regia Anglorum organization,
with links to some authentic ink recipes!)

http://www.flick.com/~liralen/quills/quills.html (by Liralen Li)

Yours in service,

Ly. Giraude Benet

 
 
 

Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Post by Stefan li Ro » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 15:21:14


Greetings from Stefan li Rous,

It is quite possible that the quills that you have, have not been
cut properly for use as a writing instrument.

You might be interested in looking at these files in the SCRIBAL ARTS
section of the Florilegium:
quills-msg        (18K) 11/17/95    Making quill pens. Pen knives.
inks-msg          (46K)  5/ 3/01    Period and SCA inks for calligraphy.
iwandpc-msg       (21K)  9/25/00    Ink wells and pencases.



Quote:
> I've gotten a couple of quills that were being sold as novelty items
> with an inkwell that I bought at a pen store. The thing is, I can't
> get them to work very well. The fountain pen ink I use tends to just
> rush out all at once. Anyone have any pointers? Thanks.

--
THL Stefan li Rous                Mark S. Harris
Barony of Bryn Gwlad               Austin, TX

*** Check out Stefan's Florilegium files at:
       http://www.florilegium.org ***
 
 
 

Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Post by jrlat.. » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 03:13:54




Quote:
>I've gotten a couple of quills that were being sold as novelty items
>with an inkwell that I bought at a pen store. The thing is, I can't
>get them to work very well. The fountain pen ink I use tends to just
>rush out all at once. Anyone have any pointers? Thanks.

Check your local library for a copy of "Writing & Illuminating &
Lettering" by Edward Johnston. He's acknowledged by many as the 'father'
of calligraphy. Chapter two, Tools, discusses how to prepare reed, cane
and quill pens for writing. Reed and cane pens were usually used when
writing large letters over half an inch or so. Quill pens were used for
smaller writing.

It sounds like you're missing the 'spring' in your quill pen. That's a
thin metal strip bent into a flat S shape that's pushed into the quill
so one flat end rests behind the writing end of the quill. It's hard to
explain it without restoring to pictures.

If you have trouble finding a copy get back to me and we can probably
work something out. I have a copy buried away in some boxes so it might
take a while to find my copy.
--
john R. Latala

 
 
 

Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Post by K& » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 08:09:19


Do most people in SCA write with quills? or do you ever 'cheat' and use a
fountain pin or even marker to do Calligraphy?    Just curious if it's
something I'd like to attempt some day.

z

 
 
 

Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Post by Susan Carroll-Clar » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:34:09


Greetings--


Quote:

> Do most people in SCA write with quills? or do you ever 'cheat' and use a
> fountain pin or even marker to do Calligraphy?    Just curious if it's
> something I'd like to attempt some day.

I have tried quills, but for everyday calligraphy, I use a dip pen (metal
nib).  If I'm in a hurry, I use a cartridge pen. I've used the calligraphic
markers for teaching kids and for one particularly *** paper that ate
metal nibs alive, but they really do not "work" like the real thing.

Nicolaa

 
 
 

Calligraphy: Writing with a quill

Post by Jonathan J. Bak » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:41:25



Quote:

>> I've gotten a couple of quills that were being sold as novelty items
>> with an inkwell that I bought at a pen store. The thing is, I can't
>> get them to work very well. The fountain pen ink I use tends to just
>> rush out all at once. Anyone have any pointers? Thanks.
>It could be that if the pen was prepared only as a novelty item, and
>not as a working quill, it isn't cut well enough to actually be used
>for writing.
>Also, modern fountain pen ink is designed to flow without clogging up
>modern fountain pens, so it probably is too runny to use with a quill.
> I'm sure one of our resident calligraphers would be more than happy
>to recommend a good ink to use with quill pens!
>Some websites to peruse:
>http://www.regia.org/quill2.htm (from the Regia Anglorum organization,
>with links to some authentic ink recipes!)
>http://www.flick.com/~liralen/quills/quills.html (by Liralen Li)

I'd suggest contacting a sofer, a Jewish ritual scribe.  They still use
quill pens (a step up from the reed pens used in Talmudic/Roman times),
as far as I know, and know how to make the proper ink.  

As for the runny ink - yes.  Our local rabbi spent ages trying to find a
pen that would take the ink used for writing Torahs, so he could repair
damaged letters without sending it out, but most of the pens he tried,
the ink clogged the pen right away.  He finally found a drafting pen
with a plain tube point which worked.

Contact me offline for a reference.

Deudone'.

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