What is THIS?

What is THIS?

Post by Joel Forem » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:00:16



http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/images/whats_this.jpg

Is that THE-O? Xamel?

In looking at the HGUC size comparrison shot online from the
Shizouka(sp?) show I noticed that all the mechs on the top row were
MGs, while the middle was all HGUCs...that said, what is THIS?

Is that a MONSTER MG that's coming down the line?

You can see this monster mech, then the GP-02, FAZZ, right on down on
the top row. On the middle row you have a buncha HGUCs.

Please ID this...could it be a clue to a coming MG?! Why didn't anyone
mention this before? (There may be an obvious answer here)

Please discuss...

Joel

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What is THIS?

Post by Eric Hardi » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:22:10



Quote:
>http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/images/whats_this.jpg

>Is that THE-O? Xamel?

Dammit!  What is people's obsession with the Mr. Potato Head mobile suit
anyways!   Can anyone explain how they think that The-O is a cool
looking mobile suit?

Damn thing makes the Ball look well designed...

Eric

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by L. M. Lloy » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:21:27


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That is the Xeku-Zwei from Sentinel.

That wall chart seems to be every official UC suit ever designed,
represented in a unified scale. Boy would I love to wallpaper my
model room with that illustration!


Quote:
> http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/images/whats_this.jpg

> Is that THE-O? Xamel?

> In looking at the HGUC size comparrison shot online from the
> Shizouka(sp?) show I noticed that all the mechs on the top row were
> MGs, while the middle was all HGUCs...that said, what is THIS?

> Is that a MONSTER MG that's coming down the line?

> You can see this monster mech, then the GP-02, FAZZ, right on down
> on the top row. On the middle row you have a buncha HGUCs.

> Please ID this...could it be a clue to a coming MG?! Why didn't
> anyone mention this before? (There may be an obvious answer here)

> Please discuss...

> Joel

www.hobbygeek.com

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What is THIS?

Post by CWMODE » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:40:05


That is the XEKU-ZWEI from Gundam Sentinel.

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<<http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/images/whats_this.jpg

Is that THE-O? Xamel?

In looking at the HGUC size comparrison shot online from the
Shizouka(sp?) show I noticed that all the mechs on the top row were
MGs, while the middle was all HGUCs...that said, what is THIS?

Is that a MONSTER MG that's coming down the line?

You can see this monster mech, then the GP-02, FAZZ, right on down on
the top row. On the middle row you have a buncha HGUCs.

Please ID this...could it be a clue to a coming MG?! Why didn't anyone
mention this before? (There may be an obvious answer here)

Please discuss...

Joel
 >>

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by CWMODE » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:19:47



<< Dammit!  What is people's obsession with the Mr. Potato Head mobile suit
anyways!   Can anyone explain how they think that The-O is a cool
looking mobile suit?
Damn thing makes the Ball look well designed...

Eric>>

I'll explain to you EXACTLY why some people consider THE O (or any thing else
like that) as a cool Mobile Suit.

In terms of "practical" mechanical designs concepts, a humanoid visual is an
extremely inefficient design. Why have robots walk with human like legs when
you can simply transport them more easily with tank treads or hovercraft-like
mechanism. In a real land battle a bipedal design would move way too slowly
against anything that don't have legs. Not to mention that most mobile suits
are mainly used in space anyway, so why have legs at all then? A Gundam (and
other typical MS) design is extremely impracticable in reality. If anything
like a Gundam would EVER exist, the only reason why it would look like a human
would be to either create a psychological effect on the enemy or to be used as
a symbol.

THE O presents (visually) something more along the line of a machine instead of
a human. It is closer to concepts of a tank or a weapon. The design is closer
to something that can be achieved in reality.  It is also a lot bigger than
most of the other Mobile suits in size. Which is why many people buy into that
type of design.

I personally think its a hell of a lot scarier if I encountered something like
THE O in space than a Gundam. Because it doesn't have any immediately
describable features like a humanoid model, it is actually a lot more
terrifying. Can you even imagine a MS pilot trying to describe THE O to his
captain on the radio if this was his very first encounter?

Another reason why some like The O is simply for that fact that they are just
plain SICK of the typical humanoid look in the Gundam series.

Now that I have given you such an extensive explanation, would you care to
explain HOW in anyway those type of designs could be identified as "Mr. Potato
Head"? And How the BALL could be better looking?

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What is THIS?

Post by Thomas Koh » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:00:13




Quote:


> >http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/images/whats_this.jpg

> >Is that THE-O? Xamel?

> Dammit!  What is people's obsession with the Mr. Potato Head mobile suit
> anyways!   Can anyone explain how they think that The-O is a cool
> looking mobile suit?

Well Cwmodels explained one aspect of it, it doesnt look like a standard MS
and somehow seems feasible as an MS design for space use
second i am a nut for heavy armored Suits,third its piloted by a maniac
and finally its really huge and kicks ass in the show
Quote:

> Damn thing makes the Ball look well designed...

Well the ball is still the most realistic design in MSG
Quote:

> Eric

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by Warmaste » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:03:05


Heres a cpl of pics of the 1/220 kit

http://www.hobbyfan.com/catalog/rb127b.jpg
http://www.hobbyfan.com/catalog/rb127c.jpg

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by Thomas Koh » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:17:29




Quote:
> Heres a cpl of pics of the 1/220 kit

> http://www.hobbyfan.com/catalog/rb127b.jpg
> http://www.hobbyfan.com/catalog/rb127c.jpg

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *drool*
now i got one more suit up my gotta have list, its huge and heavy armed
,musthave !
 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by Eric Hardi » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:57:08


Quote:

>Now that I have given you such an extensive explanation, would you care to
>explain HOW in anyway those type of designs could be identified as "Mr. Potato
>Head"? And How the BALL could be better looking?

Ack, sorry, forgot that tone of voice doesn't tranlate well to the written
word, should have put some sarcasim warnings on the last message...

The Mr. Potato Head referance came from an old california anime club
newsletter comic strip, it's stuck with me ever since.    But if you do look
at The O, it sorta does look like a misshaped potato with arms and feet stuck
on it...:)

Then again, with the exception of the Zeta Plus'es, I pretty much hate all the
Gundam Sentinal stuff too, especially the EX-S-Gundam, looks like Rob Liefied
designed it.  Tiny legs, huge freaking shoulders...

And how could the smooth, clean lines of the Ball be anything but awesomely
cool? :)

Eric

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by Giuliano Moschin » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:33:28


For some reason, I can't seem to find any trace of this kit, or variants, in HLJ's catalog,
including OOP kits.

I'm not finding a "Gundam Sentinel" catagory, either.

Any clues?

-Giuliano



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> That is the Xeku-Zwei from Sentinel.

> That wall chart seems to be every official UC suit ever designed,
> represented in a unified scale. Boy would I love to wallpaper my
> model room with that illustration!



> > http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/images/whats_this.jpg

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by David Chi » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:51:44


That is because much of the subjects in Gundam Sentinel are either scratch
built or resin kits. For the most part because it is conceived outside of
BANDAI/Sunrise toy-anime-complex, it has always been treated like an adopted
child...

B-Club has released a handful of resin kits, although most of the more
interesting items (Gundam Mk.V, Xeku Ein, Xeku Zwei, etc. are available only
in resin, and only as event-only releases.) The BANDAI release of 1/144 are
nothing less than pathetic.


Quote:
> For some reason, I can't seem to find any trace of this kit, or variants,
in HLJ's catalog,
> including OOP kits.

> I'm not finding a "Gundam Sentinel" catagory, either.

> Any clues?

> -Giuliano



> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1

> > That is the Xeku-Zwei from Sentinel.

> > That wall chart seems to be every official UC suit ever designed,
> > represented in a unified scale. Boy would I love to wallpaper my
> > model room with that illustration!



> > > http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/images/whats_this.jpg

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by David Chi » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:56:22



Quote:
> THE O presents (visually) something more along the line of a machine
instead of
> a human. It is closer to concepts of a tank or a weapon. The design is
closer
> to something that can be achieved in reality.  It is also a lot bigger
than
> most of the other Mobile suits in size. Which is why many people buy into
that
> type of design.

Actually, I believe the design is inspired by ancient Japanese  royal court
dress (it's a formal wear of sorts) for men. (People who have watch Japanese
programs knows exactly what I am talking about...)

Quote:
> terrifying. Can you even imagine a MS pilot trying to describe THE O to
his
> captain on the radio if this was his very first encounter?

But radio doesn't work (very well) in the Gundam universe...
 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by Giuliano Moschin » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 02:01:12


Are we talking about this kit:

    http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BCL1827

Or is it something else?

-Giuliano

Quote:



> > THE O presents (visually) something more along the line of a machine
> instead of
> > a human. It is closer to concepts of a tank or a weapon. The design is
> closer
> > to something that can be achieved in reality.  It is also a lot bigger
> than
> > most of the other Mobile suits in size. Which is why many people buy into
> that
> > type of design.

> Actually, I believe the design is inspired by ancient Japanese  royal court
> dress (it's a formal wear of sorts) for men. (People who have watch Japanese
> programs knows exactly what I am talking about...)

> > terrifying. Can you even imagine a MS pilot trying to describe THE O to
> his
> > captain on the radio if this was his very first encounter?

> But radio doesn't work (very well) in the Gundam universe...

 
 
 

What is THIS?

Post by juic » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 02:51:19


Quote:

> I'll explain to you EXACTLY why some people consider THE O (or any thing else
> like that) as a cool Mobile Suit.

The O is one of my fav design also, however I have different idea for
humanoid mechs and here are some on their behalf.

Quote:
> In terms of "practical" mechanical designs concepts, a humanoid visual is an
> extremely inefficient design. Why have robots walk with human like legs when
> you can simply transport them more easily with tank treads or hovercraft-like
> mechanism. In a real land battle a bipedal design would move way too slowly
> against anything that don't have legs. Not to mention that most mobile suits
> are mainly used in space anyway, so why have legs at all then? A Gundam (and
> other typical MS) design is extremely impracticable in reality. If anything
> like a Gundam would EVER exist, the only reason why it would look like a human
> would be to either create a psychological effect on the enemy or to be used as
> a symbol.

Use of MS varies from space to terrestrial. Even in space, there are
space colonies the MS must operate within. Thus considering for
veratility for general purpose MS, mobility within influence of gravity
must be considered. Remember, the first developer of MS, Zeon had in
mind to take over the earth or at least mess it up real nice, which
meant MS had to be operational on earth surface. So why is moving on
limbs better than treads or hovering? First, think of maneuverability
issue. In order for MS to move other directions than forward of
backward, it simply has to step aside. Vehicles on treads must pivot
around first in order to head in that direction. Hovering presents
diiferent problem. For sudden change in direction, the thrust source
would have to generate a-lot of thrust to do what legged MS would do for
just use friction between ground and its feet. That aside, hovering
device would need large flat area which may be always present on places
like earth. Besides, when MS's do lots of long distance travel, they
seem to be transported by vehicle more efficient in just traveling. And
then even in space, there is that advantage of having limbs to save fuel
via AMBAC. Talking about gundams, though, they are used as almost
propaganda like symbols-bright colors and other ***that would not make
sense normally. Although, all these go down the drain in era of ultra
powerful V gundam and nano ***turn a and g gundam series and the
humanoid form is just for nostalgia sake...

Quote:

> I personally think its a hell of a lot scarier if I encountered something like
> THE O in space than a Gundam. Because it doesn't have any immediately
> describable features like a humanoid model, it is actually a lot more
> terrifying. Can you even imagine a MS pilot trying to describe THE O to his
> captain on the radio if this was his very first encounter?

I think Neu Ziel or Zeong might be little more scary than the-o.
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What is THIS?

Post by James C. Neverman » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:58:19


Quote:

> Actually, I believe the design is inspired by ancient Japanese  royal court
> dress (it's a formal wear of sorts) for men. (People who have watch Japanese
> programs knows exactly what I am talking about...)

I agree completely. The helmet on `Marsai' [Z Gundam] seems almost a
direct lift from Japanese samurai armor helmet. The ubiquitous "V"
antennae on Gundam heads looks to be from the same helmet, except that
they go to a point instead of splayed out at the end.

Clever ethnic origin translations to sci-fi.

--
Jim Nevermann
[usual disclaimers]