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Post by Mark Wilso » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 19:01:29





Quote:
>Considering that both operates on radio wave (one is used to encapsulate
>verbal communication while the other is used for proximity detection) I fail
>to see how one would work but the other does not. There is a reason why
>SkinTouch and Laser Communication are the preferred method of communication
>in Gundam Universe...




>> << But radio doesn't work (very well) in the Gundam universe...>>

>> Radar is the technology that doesn't work well. The radios are fine all
>the
>> time.

>> CWMODELS

Its also frequency dependent.  Radio waves and microwaves are not the
same frequency, so they can be impaired/attenuated/scintillated
differently.

Remember, the writers (no military experts) had to come up with some
legitimate excuse for MS to engage in hand-to-hand combat for dramatic
purposes, hence radar weapons couldn't work.  Otherwise, they would
engage each other from miles away in standoff battles--Can't make Char
and Amuro stars of a push-button war!

BTW, this is all well and good for what was known of 1979 technology
(when the original MSG aired), but today we have moved well beyond a
dependence on radar for weapons guidance.  Even without radar there
are so many ways to precisely reach out and touch someone, MS become
somewhat untenable.

Mark Wilson

One time, at Band Camp........

http://home.earthlink.net/~mmwilson2/Models.htm

RAAM FAQ:
http://home.earthlink.net/~mmwilson2/RAAMFAQ/index.html

 
 
 

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Post by SCRuFFy1 » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 04:44:52


Well stocked hobby shops carry braided hose for use on custom car kits.
They can be used just as easily for your purposes.

If you don't have a good hobby shop near you, see if you can find a news
stand or bookstore that sells "Scale Auto Enthusiast", "Car Modeler" or
"Fine Scale Modeler".  There will probably be ads from mail order and
web-based shops that stock the stuff.

Barring that, try www.phoenix-model.com , or try a web search for Micro
Mark.

--
SCRuFFy12

"And that's not just some bald kid playing a banjo!"
-Ryan Stiles, "Who's Line Is It Anyway?"


Quote:
> I was wondering what's the name of those plastic hose on the MG mkII legs
> and backpack? I need to get some of those hose for modification, but I
> don't know what they're called.

>  MK


 
 
 

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Post by Dominique Duroch » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:01:52



Quote:

> BTW, this is all well and good for what was known of 1979 technology
> (when the original MSG aired), but today we have moved well beyond a
> dependence on radar for weapons guidance.  Even without radar there
> are so many ways to precisely reach out and touch someone, MS become
> somewhat untenable.

Very true, and one of the most effective ones in space is infrared. No
mater what you do to a mecha or ship, as long as it's funcioning in any
manner it will be hotter than the 3deg K background of space. Everything
stands out pretty bad against that cold a background. Jamming and
deception are still possible (and shown with flares on occasion), but we
already have rather precisely discerning guidance systems now.

Dom

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Post by George Caswel » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 14:48:29


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> Very true, and one of the most effective ones in space is infrared. No
> mater what you do to a mecha or ship, as long as it's funcioning in any
> manner it will be hotter than the 3deg K background of space. Everything
> stands out pretty bad against that cold a background. Jamming and
> deception are still possible (and shown with flares on occasion), but we
> already have rather precisely discerning guidance systems now.

   Does that mean that SDI could actually work for a change?  :)

---GEC
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(M-x depeche-mode)
"Porque ma?ana a lo mejor hay un entierro"

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Wilso » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 21:25:18


On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:48:29 -0400, George Caswell

Quote:


>> Very true, and one of the most effective ones in space is infrared. No
>> mater what you do to a mecha or ship, as long as it's funcioning in any
>> manner it will be hotter than the 3deg K background of space. Everything
>> stands out pretty bad against that cold a background. Jamming and
>> deception are still possible (and shown with flares on occasion), but we
>> already have rather precisely discerning guidance systems now.

>   Does that mean that SDI could actually work for a change?  :)

>---GEC
>Projects page: http://tetsujin.sourceforge.net/
>(M-x depeche-mode)
>"Porque ma?ana a lo mejor hay un entierro"

To get real here for a second, the boost phase system (Airborne Laser)
and terminal defense (Enhanced Patriot--IIRC "Pac III") are already
very mature.  The improved Patriot has had continual successes in
testing against theatre Ballistic missiles.

BTW, if you read the New York times or other "news" rags, you will
basically get a load of falsehoods and misinformation about SDI (now
BMDO).  Fer example, they just yesterday mentioned "President Bush's
missile defense system has had three consecutive failures" or some
garbage to that effect.  Hogwash.

1.  All the Failures occurred under Bubba, not Dub.  Besides, these
systems are decades in the developemnt--can't blame or credit one man.
2.  Only one component, the THAAD missile system, has a dog record.
The rest of the systems are looking pretty sweet.  There are still
challenges, but they are not impossible.
3.  No mention was made at all of the upgraded Patriots (far superior
to the Gulf War version) or ABL successes.

The space-borne laser is another issue, as it will be (technically
speaking)  "Freakin' Huge" and complicated.  If it does get going,
though, it could be a very serious deterrent.

Real world mode off.  Please return to the fantasy mechanics of the
Gundam Universe at this time;)
Mark Wilson

One time, at Band Camp........

http://home.earthlink.net/~mmwilson2/Models.htm

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Post by George Caswel » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:44:39


Quote:

> >> Very true, and one of the most effective ones in space is infrared. No
> >   Does that mean that SDI could actually work for a change?  :)

   I guess I was kind of implying that it doesn't work -now-..  not really
what I meant to say, but, oh, well.

Quote:
> To get real here for a second, the boost phase system (Airborne Laser)
> BTW, if you read the New York times or other "news" rags, you will
> 1.  All the Failures occurred under Bubba, not Dub.  Besides, these
> 2.  Only one component, the THAAD missile system, has a dog record.
> 3.  No mention was made at all of the upgraded Patriots (far superior
> The space-borne laser is another issue, as it will be (technically
> speaking)  "Freakin' Huge" and complicated.  If it does get going,
> though, it could be a very serious deterrent.

   So that's a 'yes', then.  Cool.  Gives me something to blow up on my way in
from high orbit, to give me cover against the other defense systems.  :)

---GEC
Projects page: http://tetsujin.sourceforge.net/
(M-x depeche-mode)
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Post by Body without organ » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 20:32:41


Quote:



> > That is because much of the subjects in Gundam Sentinel are either scratch
> > built or resin kits. For the most part because it is conceived outside of
> > BANDAI/Sunrise toy-anime-complex, it has always been treated like an
> adopted
> > child...

> > B-Club has released a handful of resin kits, although most of the more
> > interesting items (Gundam Mk.V, Xeku Ein, Xeku Zwei, etc. are available
> only
> > in resin, and only as event-only releases.) The BANDAI release of 1/144
> are
> > nothing less than pathetic.

> Wasn't it MGOCK (Model Graphix Original Cast Kit) instead of B-Club ?

Yes. The Xeku-ein (1/144, 1/220), Xeku Zwei (1/220), Gundam Mk.V (1/144), and
Nero (1/220, 1/144) are all MGOCK kit, and has never been re-released yet. There
are also a 1/100 version of Xeku-Zwei made by Art Gallery a few years back
(unlicensed, of course).

Quote:
> These
> were limited released kits, and I know there were others produced by other
> small companies, only for events, as you said, but the only Gundam Sentinel
> kits B-Club ever released were conversion parts for the MSZ-006A1 Zeta Plus

This is also originally made by Model Graphix. I think the B-Club one has a few
additionals.

Quote:
> and the RMS-154 Barzam Refine Type

I wish I had grabbed this one back then at mere 9,800 yen. Now that it's become
such a sought after item, I saw the price tags are no less than 25,000 yen or so
in many hobby shops.

Quote:
> (was there a S-Gundam upgrade parts sets
> as well ? I don't remember).

Yes, a couple of them. One for S and one for Ex-S. IIRC, a few years back
Hiroaki mentioned he has some involvement with the B-Club release of this kit.
But I'll let him shed light on the issue himself.

Quote:
> --
> MSZ-006C1 aka T-J1
> Director of Anaheim Electronics MS Developpement Division
> - End of transmission -

Jock
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Post by James C. Neverman » Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:13:39


Quote:

> Oh, and if you haven't seen it before, check out this B-Club kit of
> the Zeong WITH its legs...pretty dern cool...

> http://www.hlj.com/images/bcl/bcl1976.gif

> That puppy is 1:100 scale...only 49,800 yen...

Huh... I'd have sworn Bandai made a 1/144 styrene of it just prior to
Z Gundam kits. I'll have to check my old catalog.

--
Jim Nevermann
[usual disclaimers]

 
 
 

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Post by Giuliano Moschin » Wed, 06 Jun 2001 01:00:03


The B-Club resin 1/100 versions are all still available..

Zeong W/O Legs:
http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BCL1836

Zeong W/Legs:
http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BCL1976

Just the legs: (no pic)
http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?BCL1986

Expensive as all hell, though.


Quote:

> > Oh, and if you haven't seen it before, check out this B-Club kit of
> > the Zeong WITH its legs...pretty dern cool...

> > http://www.hlj.com/images/bcl/bcl1976.gif

> > That puppy is 1:100 scale...only 49,800 yen...

> Huh... I'd have sworn Bandai made a 1/144 styrene of it just prior to
> Z Gundam kits. I'll have to check my old catalog.

> --
> Jim Nevermann
> [usual disclaimers]

 
 
 

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Post by L. M. Lloy » Wed, 06 Jun 2001 01:07:51


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> Huh... I'd have sworn Bandai made a 1/144 styrene of it just prior
> to Z Gundam kits. I'll have to check my old catalog.

> --
> Jim Nevermann

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