Who am I to argue...?

Who am I to argue...?

Post by George Caswel » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:54:54



   I hate to brag, but I thought this was pretty cool:

   OK, decided to order a bunch of option parts, right?  Try out that T-shaft,
maybe do some fun stuff with the C-Pipes and whatnot, get replacements
for those springs missing from my traded MG Zaku-S...  anyway, I put this
whole order together, and decided to top it off with a mobile suit...  After
all, I'm always adding something to my queue of 1/144 kits, whether it's a
mediocre High Grade or a mediocre gradeless kit (It's very rare that a true
sock monkey will obtain a spot in the queue) - and since I'd enjoyed the 1/144
Rick Dom II so much (in the test-fit stage, at least) and since 0080 is on TV,
I decided to try another 0080 kit..  Zaku FZ, or Hygog, or Kempfer, or
something...  I liked all three designs (though implementation seemed to maybe
not be the best) and ultimately settled on Kempfer, because it's unique,
because it had a bunch of weapons, because it's truly bad-ass..  and so after
looking at the lineart and different photos of the model for a while, and
thinking about how I could fix the problems with the kit, I decided to go
ahead and get it.

   Fast-forward about a week.  Still no sign of the package, but it's
supposedly been on its way for about a week, so I'm wondering where the hell
it is...  Finally, package arrives - yay!  New model kit day!  Seems a bit
large for a regular-sized 1/144 and a bunch of option parts, but, whatever...
I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I thought...
"Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

   Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master Grade".

   Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

---GEC
Projects page: http://home.maine.rr.com/tetsujin/
(M-x depeche-mode)
"Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."

 
 
 

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Post by Shiro Ryukam » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 01:53:01


wait wait wait....somebody sent you the MG for the price of the 0080
1/144!?!?!?!?


Quote:

>    I hate to brag, but I thought this was pretty cool:

>    OK, decided to order a bunch of option parts, right?  Try out that
T-shaft,
> maybe do some fun stuff with the C-Pipes and whatnot, get replacements
> for those springs missing from my traded MG Zaku-S...  anyway, I put this
> whole order together, and decided to top it off with a mobile suit...
After
> all, I'm always adding something to my queue of 1/144 kits, whether it's a
> mediocre High Grade or a mediocre gradeless kit (It's very rare that a
true
> sock monkey will obtain a spot in the queue) - and since I'd enjoyed the
1/144
> Rick Dom II so much (in the test-fit stage, at least) and since 0080 is on
TV,
> I decided to try another 0080 kit..  Zaku FZ, or Hygog, or Kempfer, or
> something...  I liked all three designs (though implementation seemed to
maybe
> not be the best) and ultimately settled on Kempfer, because it's unique,
> because it had a bunch of weapons, because it's truly bad-ass..  and so
after
> looking at the lineart and different photos of the model for a while, and
> thinking about how I could fix the problems with the kit, I decided to go
> ahead and get it.

>    Fast-forward about a week.  Still no sign of the package, but it's
> supposedly been on its way for about a week, so I'm wondering where the
hell
> it is...  Finally, package arrives - yay!  New model kit day!  Seems a bit
> large for a regular-sized 1/144 and a bunch of option parts, but,
whatever...
> I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I
thought...
> "Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

>    Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master
Grade".

>    Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

> ---GEC
> Projects page: http://home.maine.rr.com/tetsujin/
> (M-x depeche-mode)
> "Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."


 
 
 

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Post by George Caswel » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 03:07:45


Quote:

> wait wait wait....somebody sent you the MG for the price of the 0080
> 1/144!?!?!?!?

   Yes.  Now I'm wading through my m***dilemma stage, trying to figure out
if I should tell them about it.

   The hard part is that the MG is -really cool-.  :)  Maybe I'll keep it,
paint it flat navy, and do the verniers all dark colors, just to upset the
Kampfer purists.  :)

Quote:



> >    I hate to brag, but I thought this was pretty cool:

> >    OK, decided to order a bunch of option parts, right?  Try out that
> T-shaft,
> > maybe do some fun stuff with the C-Pipes and whatnot, get replacements
> > for those springs missing from my traded MG Zaku-S...  anyway, I put this
> > whole order together, and decided to top it off with a mobile suit...
> After
> > all, I'm always adding something to my queue of 1/144 kits, whether it's a
> > mediocre High Grade or a mediocre gradeless kit (It's very rare that a
> true
> > sock monkey will obtain a spot in the queue) - and since I'd enjoyed the
> 1/144
> > Rick Dom II so much (in the test-fit stage, at least) and since 0080 is on
> TV,
> > I decided to try another 0080 kit..  Zaku FZ, or Hygog, or Kempfer, or
> > something...  I liked all three designs (though implementation seemed to
> maybe
> > not be the best) and ultimately settled on Kempfer, because it's unique,
> > because it had a bunch of weapons, because it's truly bad-ass..  and so
> after
> > looking at the lineart and different photos of the model for a while, and
> > thinking about how I could fix the problems with the kit, I decided to go
> > ahead and get it.

> >    Fast-forward about a week.  Still no sign of the package, but it's
> > supposedly been on its way for about a week, so I'm wondering where the
> hell
> > it is...  Finally, package arrives - yay!  New model kit day!  Seems a bit
> > large for a regular-sized 1/144 and a bunch of option parts, but,
> whatever...
> > I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I
> thought...
> > "Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

> >    Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master
> Grade".

> >    Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

> > ---GEC
> > Projects page: http://www.FoundCollection.com/
> > (M-x depeche-mode)
> > "Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."

---GEC
Projects page: http://www.FoundCollection.com/
(M-x depeche-mode)
"Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."
 
 
 

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Post by junkst » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 04:44:43


who do you order from?  Just curious...

Junkster

Quote:

> I hate to brag, but I thought this was pretty cool:

>    OK, decided to order a bunch of option parts, right?  Try out that T-shaft,
> maybe do some fun stuff with the C-Pipes and whatnot, get replacements
> for those springs missing from my traded MG Zaku-S...  anyway, I put this
> whole order together, and decided to top it off with a mobile suit...  After
> all, I'm always adding something to my queue of 1/144 kits, whether it's a
> mediocre High Grade or a mediocre gradeless kit (It's very rare that a true
> sock monkey will obtain a spot in the queue) - and since I'd enjoyed the 1/144
> Rick Dom II so much (in the test-fit stage, at least) and since 0080 is on TV,
> I decided to try another 0080 kit..  Zaku FZ, or Hygog, or Kempfer, or
> something...  I liked all three designs (though implementation seemed to maybe
> not be the best) and ultimately settled on Kempfer, because it's unique,
> because it had a bunch of weapons, because it's truly bad-ass..  and so after
> looking at the lineart and different photos of the model for a while, and
> thinking about how I could fix the problems with the kit, I decided to go
> ahead and get it.

>    Fast-forward about a week.  Still no sign of the package, but it's
> supposedly been on its way for about a week, so I'm wondering where the hell
> it is...  Finally, package arrives - yay!  New model kit day!  Seems a bit
> large for a regular-sized 1/144 and a bunch of option parts, but, whatever...
> I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I thought...
> "Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

>    Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master Grade".

>    Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

> ---GEC
> Projects page: http://home.maine.rr.com/tetsujin/
> (M-x depeche-mode)
> "Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."

 
 
 

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Post by George Caswel » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 06:30:46



Quote:
> who do you order from?  Just curious...

   Gundamshop.  When they have what I want, they're more convenient than HLJ
for small orders.  Plus I like how the catalog is organized and the
rating/reviewing system.

Quote:
> >    Fast-forward about a week.  Still no sign of the package, but it's
> > supposedly been on its way for about a week, so I'm wondering where the hell
> > it is...  Finally, package arrives - yay!  New model kit day!  Seems a bit
> > large for a regular-sized 1/144 and a bunch of option parts, but, whatever...
> > I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I thought...
> > "Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

> >    Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master Grade".

> >    Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

---GEC
Projects page: http://home.maine.rr.com/tetsujin/
(M-x depeche-mode)
"Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."
 
 
 

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Post by Chaos Return » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 06:38:59


Tell them.
I would normally say "F' em", but you've already let the cat out of
the bag, and they will probably not do anything...BUT...
It won't kill you to let them know...

On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 15:54:54 GMT, George Caswell

Quote:

>   I hate to brag, but I thought this was pretty cool:

>   OK, decided to order a bunch of option parts, right?  Try out that T-shaft,
>maybe do some fun stuff with the C-Pipes and whatnot, get replacements
>for those springs missing from my traded MG Zaku-S...  anyway, I put this
>whole order together, and decided to top it off with a mobile suit...  After
>all, I'm always adding something to my queue of 1/144 kits, whether it's a
>mediocre High Grade or a mediocre gradeless kit (It's very rare that a true
>sock monkey will obtain a spot in the queue) - and since I'd enjoyed the 1/144
>Rick Dom II so much (in the test-fit stage, at least) and since 0080 is on TV,
>I decided to try another 0080 kit..  Zaku FZ, or Hygog, or Kempfer, or
>something...  I liked all three designs (though implementation seemed to maybe
>not be the best) and ultimately settled on Kempfer, because it's unique,
>because it had a bunch of weapons, because it's truly bad-ass..  and so after
>looking at the lineart and different photos of the model for a while, and
>thinking about how I could fix the problems with the kit, I decided to go
>ahead and get it.

>   Fast-forward about a week.  Still no sign of the package, but it's
>supposedly been on its way for about a week, so I'm wondering where the hell
>it is...  Finally, package arrives - yay!  New model kit day!  Seems a bit
>large for a regular-sized 1/144 and a bunch of option parts, but, whatever...
>I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I thought...
>"Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

>   Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master Grade".

>   Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

>---GEC
>Projects page: http://home.maine.rr.com/tetsujin/
>(M-x depeche-mode)
>"Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."

 
 
 

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Post by George Caswel » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 07:03:20


Quote:

> Tell them.
> I would normally say "F' em", but you've already let the cat out of
> the bag, and they will probably not do anything...BUT...
> It won't kill you to let them know...

   Yah, already done.  I'll let them decide how they want to handle it.

Quote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 15:54:54 GMT, George Caswell

> >   I hate to brag, but I thought this was pretty cool:

> >   OK, decided to order a bunch of option parts, right?  Try out that T-shaft,
> >maybe do some fun stuff with the C-Pipes and whatnot, get replacements
> >for those springs missing from my traded MG Zaku-S...  anyway, I put this
> >whole order together, and decided to top it off with a mobile suit...  After
> >all, I'm always adding something to my queue of 1/144 kits, whether it's a
> >mediocre High Grade or a mediocre gradeless kit (It's very rare that a true
> >sock monkey will obtain a spot in the queue) - and since I'd enjoyed the 1/144
> >Rick Dom II so much (in the test-fit stage, at least) and since 0080 is on TV,
> >I decided to try another 0080 kit..  Zaku FZ, or Hygog, or Kempfer, or
> >something...  I liked all three designs (though implementation seemed to maybe
> >not be the best) and ultimately settled on Kempfer, because it's unique,
> >because it had a bunch of weapons, because it's truly bad-ass..  and so after
> >looking at the lineart and different photos of the model for a while, and
> >thinking about how I could fix the problems with the kit, I decided to go
> >ahead and get it.

> >   Fast-forward about a week.  Still no sign of the package, but it's
> >supposedly been on its way for about a week, so I'm wondering where the hell
> >it is...  Finally, package arrives - yay!  New model kit day!  Seems a bit
> >large for a regular-sized 1/144 and a bunch of option parts, but, whatever...
> >I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I thought...
> >"Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

> >   Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master Grade".

> >   Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

> >---GEC
> >Projects page: http://home.maine.rr.com/tetsujin/
> >(M-x depeche-mode)
> >"Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."

---GEC
Projects page: http://home.maine.rr.com/tetsujin/
(M-x depeche-mode)
"Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."
 
 
 

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Post by Joel Forem » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 07:59:19


Quote:
> The hard part is that the MG is -really cool-.  :)  

You have to return it, just because my jealousy is eating me a alive
;-). I dropped close to $50 on mine after shipping, and the thought of
you getting one for less than $10 is too much to bear.

If it was me, I probably would email them and let them know what
happened. Tell them you will return it, but you want them to send you
a paid UPS shipping label complete with tracking you can just slap
back on the box. In addition, you want your 0080 1:144 shipped
overnight the day they get the MG Kampfer.

By the time they pay to have the MG K. shipped back and then overnight
the 0080 version, they'd likely lose more money than they would if
they just let you keep the MG. Tell them you are willing to keep the
MG if they would rather let it go. Don't be shy in telling them you
are happy with it.

If they have half a brain they should just call it a wash... if they
don't, well, you get what you paid for and hopefully in short order,
plus you got to play with the kit if not build it.

This is JUST ME, though, and if you were to keep it, I certainly would
not be on to judge. It is an AMAZING kit, after all ;-).

Quote:
> Maybe I'll keep it,
> paint it flat navy, and do the verniers all dark colors, just to upset the
> Kampfer purists.  :)

You mean there are folks out there who get upset about things like
this?

http://www.geocities.com/gundamjoel/gundammodels/ms18e-kampfer.html

Later!

Joel
www.hobbygeek.com

 
 
 

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Post by George Caswel » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:50:10



Quote:
> > The hard part is that the MG is -really cool-.  :)  

> You have to return it, just because my jealousy is eating me a alive
> ;-). I dropped close to $50 on mine after shipping, and the thought of
> you getting one for less than $10 is too much to bear.

   Too bad.  :P'

Quote:
> By the time they pay to have the MG K. shipped back and then overnight
> the 0080 version, they'd likely lose more money than they would if
> they just let you keep the MG. Tell them you are willing to keep the
> MG if they would rather let it go. Don't be shy in telling them you
> are happy with it.

   Yah, I did - on the plus side I got a cool model that shouldn't require
-too- much modification when I build it, on the negative side it won't be in
the same scale as most of my other mecha and I won't have any 1:144
sturmfausts.  This wouldn't have been my first choice for my next master
grade, but it is very cool.  But I'm an equitable kind of guy, if they want to
reclaim this loss one way or another, I'll oblige.  But I'll leave it up to
them to decide how to fix their mistake.

Quote:
> If they have half a brain they should just call it a wash... if they
> don't, well, you get what you paid for and hopefully in short order,
> plus you got to play with the kit if not build it.

   Nah, can't do that until this whole thing is resolved.  If I wind up
deciding that I don't want to pay the MG price, and don't particularly want a
1:100 Kampfer (that's a big couple of ifs) then I'd want to be able to ship it
back (at their expense, naturally) in saleable condition.  If bags are opened,
parts can be lost.  So for now I'm alternating between drooling over the
instruction booklet, and wishing the internals,***pit, etc. were a little
better-sculpted to match the amazing lineart in the booklet.  MG internals are
good, but frankly I don't think they're worth showing off - they're just good
enough to show in the spaces where they happen to be visisble.

Quote:
> > Maybe I'll keep it,
> > paint it flat navy, and do the verniers all dark colors, just to upset the
> > Kampfer purists.  :)

> You mean there are folks out there who get upset about things like
> this?

   I think so.  I've not been a real Kampfer enthusiast, but I think people
are quite energetic about things like "Sazabi should be bright gloss red" and
"Kampfer should be metallic gloss blue" and "Kampfer verniers should be bright
yellow inside".  I can relate to that, I'm very picky about the Tolges from
Wing... and the Zaku...  well, there's just so many options with the Zaku it's
tough to be -too- picky, but I certainly have my favorite variation made up of
different parts of the model design, the 08th anime design, etc.  Maybe when I
finish my Zaku people will tell me I've put the***pit where the reactor
should be, or an antenna where propellant tank should be, or that the leg
cables shouldn't be flush with the leg armor, or that the spike armor should
be either more or less spherical than it is...  and I'll disagree.  :)

   Certainly don't want to insult Kampfer enthusiasts by implying they're
snippy or something - all I've really seen is people saying "yay! it's how it
should be!", no instances I can think of of "No! That's wrong you stupid
bastard, it should be yellow!"

   And speaking of the Kampfer: Yutaka Izubuchi, right?  Did he do all the
Patlabor designs?  Kampfer reminds me of Broken, except of course, bigger,
meaner, and much more heavily armed...  though there's obviously a lot more
differences than that.

---GEC
Projects page: http://www.FoundCollection.com/
(M-x depeche-mode)
"Must...  Finish...  Zaku..."

 
 
 

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Post by T Wong the C » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:02:28


Quote:
> I check it out, and the Kempfer box inside is a lot larger than I thought...
> "Well, I guess it must be a big one...  strange, though"

>    Cleared up the fogginess in my brain, and read the letters: "Master Grade".

>    Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

Dude...that is freaking awesome...I MUST order from them!
 
 
 

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Post by Patrick Moor » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:16:21


Quote:

>    And speaking of the Kampfer: Yutaka Izubuchi, right?  Did he do all the
> Patlabor designs?  Kampfer reminds me of Broken, except of course, bigger,
> meaner, and much more heavily armed...  though there's obviously a lot more
> differences than that.

Yup... he did Patlabor. And he did the mecha for Char's Counter Attack... you can
see some similarities between the Kampfer, Jegan, Jagd Doga, and Sazabi.

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Post by James E. 'ZEE' Doyl » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:25:20


Dude, that's like dating a redhead and finding out she has a twin. Wayda
go.

Probably best you tell them, of course. One warning about the n-g
KAMPFER though: bananas not included.

J.E.D.

--
"God will not look over you
for medals, degrees, or diplomas,
but for scars."

-E. Hubbard-

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Seg » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:53:47


Quote:
>Subject: Re: Who am I to argue...?

>Date: 11/9/01 9:25 PM Eastern Standard Time

>Dude, that's like dating a redhead and finding out she has a twin. Wayda
>go.

>Probably best you tell them, of course. One warning about the n-g
>KAMPFER though: bananas not included.

Heh, good one.

Though it DOES come with everything else but beam sabres...

-Paul Segal

 
 
 

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Post by Patrick Moor » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:16:01


Hmm... I hate my news server. Its dropping posts left and right.

Another thing... perhaps not such a big deal... but the chain mine on the
1/144 Kampfer is said to be a really crappy, hollow affair.

-Patrick

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Post by Mark Wilso » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:29:04


On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 15:54:54 GMT, George Caswell

Quote:

>   Appeared as the 1/144 on the receipt, though.  :)

George:

One question you gotta ask yourself:  WWHD?

I think the little guy would do the right thing and give the merchant
a call.  Otherwise, how can he be truly an object of worship?

Mark Wilson

The Sleeping Giant has awoken....

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