Future ban on APS candidate advertising?

Future ban on APS candidate advertising?

Post by Doug Spad » Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:50:51



Am I the only one surprised at how little reaction there is on this group to
the outcome of the APS voting?  Only 19% of APS membership took the time to
vote---I am sure it will far outpace many of the local school board
elections and millage issues being decided today---but it's still the
highest percentage in many years.  And so far, it seems like one big snooze
(Victor being the exception) in response.  Can't help but wonder why.

That leads to the main question I am posing:  should candidate advertising
be banned, as Peter McCann has proposed in the latest issue of AP?

While I am certainly open to hearing opposing viewpoints, I find it hard to
believe that a ban would stimulate more people to vote.  There may always be
fears of someone "buying" an election, but advertising serves a useful
purpose and I see no reason to forbid it in future elections.  To be sure,
unless statistically-accurate polling is done, we'll probably never know
what impact (if any) the ads in AP, Linn's, and elsewhere had on the
results.  And certainly, many of the candidates did much to promote their
positions and candidacies through other means, too; I found the written
summaries in AP to be very enlightening, for example.

I must admit that my view is colored by working in a legislative office,
where we know how important advertising can be to winning an election.
Still, I hope that APS members think very carefully about the possible
consequences if asked in the future to adopt Peter's proposal.

On the other hand, I applaud his interest in having future ballots sent to a
neutral third party for tabulating.  While I have no doubt about the
Society's integrity, I have long felt a little uneasy about returning a
"secret" ballot---with my name and Society number attached.

Anyway, congratulations to all who were elected, and special thanks to Lloyd
for his quick posting of the results.

Mike

 
 
 

Future ban on APS candidate advertising?

Post by Tracy Barb » Thu, 12 Jun 2003 03:02:42


Quote:



>>Am I the only one surprised at how little reaction there is on this group to
>>the outcome of the APS voting?  Only 19% of APS membership took the time to
>>vote---I am sure it will far outpace many of the local school board
>>elections and millage issues being decided today---but it's still the
>>highest percentage in many years.  And so far, it seems like one big snooze
>>(Victor being the exception) in response.  Can't help but wonder why.

>(snip)

>>Mike

>Mike:

>19% is not a bad vote turn-out based on my experience with many
>volunteer outfits.  It seems that it is a characteristic of our
>present society not to care.

>My observation, in such groups, is that 5% of the members do all the
>work / participation and the others are along for the ride.

>Also RCSD is read by many (the majority?) collectors who are neither  
>based in the USA nor APS members.

>I have been a member of many stamp societies (some up to 40 years),
>based on my collecting interests, but am not an APS member.

>If I joined them all and bought all the catalogues that I need / want
>then I probably would not have any money left over for stamps.

>Blair
>RPSC - Life Member  

SNA - Life Member Emeritus!

Tracy Barber

 
 
 

Future ban on APS candidate advertising?

Post by Albume » Thu, 12 Jun 2003 00:50:00


My impression is that 'banning' is bad as a first response.

A little campaigning (advertising included) is not a problem with me. In
fact, I might be induced to take more interest in the elections.

-a


Quote:


> >Am I the only one surprised at how little reaction there is on this group
to
> >the outcome of the APS voting?  Only 19% of APS membership took the time
to
> >vote---I am sure it will far outpace many of the local school board
> >elections and millage issues being decided today---but it's still the
> >highest percentage in many years.  And so far, it seems like one big
snooze
> >(Victor being the exception) in response.  Can't help but wonder why.

> (snip)

> >Mike

> Mike:

> 19% is not a bad vote turn-out based on my experience with many
> volunteer outfits.  It seems that it is a characteristic of our
> present society not to care.

> My observation, in such groups, is that 5% of the members do all the
> work / participation and the others are along for the ride.

> Also RCSD is read by many (the majority?) collectors who are neither
> based in the USA nor APS members.

> I have been a member of many stamp societies (some up to 40 years),
> based on my collecting interests, but am not an APS member.

> If I joined them all and bought all the catalogues that I need / want
> then I probably would not have any money left over for stamps.

> Blair
> RPSC - Life Member

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Future ban on APS candidate advertising?

Post by Tracy Barb » Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:51:47




Quote:
>My impression is that 'banning' is bad as a first response.

Ditto.

Quote:
>A little campaigning (advertising included) is not a problem with me. In
>fact, I might be induced to take more interest in the elections.

The little campaigning done here was so minor, nobody should have
complained about it.  I would like to see more of the same, within
reason - of course.  Not every day, the same person!  Nooooooooo!

Back when Perot was up against Clinton ( Perot got 18% <- so what's
wrong with 18%  :^P ) I was watching one of Perot's info - discuss -
beat the other guy to a pulp - one hour - TV show thingies.

He appeared out of nowhere, with his little head, big old ears, behind
a desk.  To his right was a chart.  All of a sudden - he whipped out
this (direct from N'awlins - New Orleans for those who don't know)
voodoo *** and said "Today, we're gonna discuss voodoo economics."

I rolled over laughing sooooooo hard, I said I have to vote for this
guy!  I did.  As a third party, he got 18%.  He probably would have
fared better had he not done the dropout thing.

Anyway - that kind of promotion can get people jump-started to vote.
It doesn't have to be *** and guts, posting every day, kill the
enemy type of stuff.

Just something to get my attention and keep it there... is all.

Tracy Barber

 
 
 

Future ban on APS candidate advertising?

Post by Doug Spad » Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:46:31



<snip>

Quote:
> The little campaigning done here was so minor, nobody should have
> complained about it.  I would like to see more of the same, within
> reason - of course.  Not every day, the same person!  Nooooooooo!

 that kind of promotion can get people jump-started to vote.

Quote:
> It doesn't have to be *** and guts, posting every day, kill the
> enemy type of stuff.

> Just something to get my attention and keep it there... is all.

> Tracy Barber

Well put, Tracy.  It was about the time of the Hochner/Lawrence race that I
started to get interested in the APS.  And even though I can't describe
myself as an extremely "active" member, I certainly cherish my voting rights
and won't let an election go by without participating and casting the most
informed vote that I can.  Advertising can be very helpful, and what I saw
seemed quite civil, regardless of the candidates' initial (or continuing)
support for or opposition to the Match Factory.

I certainly welcomed the brief remarks posted here by some of the candidates
and hope they may have sparked more interest in others communicating with
them individually for a better persepctive on their stances.

Mike

 
 
 

Future ban on APS candidate advertising?

Post by Doug Spad » Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:01:07



<snip>

Quote:
> That leads to the main question I am posing:  should candidate advertising
> be banned, as Peter McCann has proposed in the latest issue of AP?

Hah!  This is a first---replying to my own post!  A reader of this group has
just shared with me that it now appears the only reform being contemplated
is placing some type of limit on ad spending.  This is an improvement, but I
am still rather leery of the idea.  Where I'm from, there are almost no
limits on spending by political candidates, and I'd prefer to see the same
hold true for those seeking APS positions.

Mike